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Something rotten in the state of Norway
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Posted on 01/13/2009 1:18:07 AM PST by marthemaria

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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr; maryz
Islam is the largest religion (2% of the population) after the Norwegian lutheran(86%), surpassing catholics etc.

Most of the members of the Norwegian Lutheran pay lip service to the leaders (who, like the "bishop" seem to be rabidly anti-Israel). What a morass Norway, Sweden and Denmark find themselves in?
21 posted on 01/13/2009 3:43:59 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Fred Nerks

Excellent links. Thanks for posting them.


22 posted on 01/13/2009 4:33:32 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: marthemaria
Worse than the Warsaw Ghetto? Are thousands of “Palestinians” dying each month of starvation? Are thousands a day being sent to Treblinka's gas chambers? Give me a bleepin’ break!
23 posted on 01/13/2009 4:46:28 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Obama's Last Day!)
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To: Rummyfan

Yep - a country that allows folks to riot and scream “Kill the Jews!”, yet if one of them said that they hated fags, it would be squashed as hate speech. Kind of reminds us of the USA these days.


24 posted on 01/13/2009 5:26:10 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
You are correct about the changes in media.

However, I am not so quick to blame the Boomers. I am not a Boomer. Born in 1943, I am a War Baby, although we all have younger Boomer siblings.

I did my time on the Left. The organizers I had contact with were people who are now in their 80s or are dead. Many Boomers were successfully inculcated over decades and then, were available to support the academic/media inculcation of their own children. There are members of the War Baby and Boomer cohorts who were not successfully inculcated. There are fewer resistors in the Gen X cohort, which IMO, is a result of their inculcation being from their parents as well as from the schools/media.

It is an ongoing, complex undertaking to unravel the processes that have brought our world and society to this present point. In the case of Israel, I think many Boomer Jews believe that if there wasn't an Israeli state, then they would never have to personally confront anti-Semitism. So they join with the hard Left in condemning Israel. Of course, if Israel is destroyed, all Jews, everywhere, regardless of degree of faith practice, are vulnerable. Once the Jews are gone, the Christians will be the next target. After that, the factions of Islam and the factions of the present Left will fight each other. Then, there will be nothing left to fight over.

My husband is Norwegian. His father and uncles were partisans who did all they could to aid the Brits against the Nazis. Before they became enablers of the Islamic Nazis, the Norwegians became socialists, convinced they had found the right way of living. We traveled a lot during the 1980s/1990s and met many young Norwegians who seemed quite arrogant and entitled. I have met some as adults in the past 10-12 years, mostly visitors to the USA. They, too, seemed convinced they were among the most righteous of societies and that we should all follow their example. At some point, they will probably see their mistakes, but I am unsure of they will correctly discern the reasons that their society is failing. They may blame the West and the Jews instead of group think and socialism.

25 posted on 01/13/2009 10:48:36 AM PST by reformedliberal
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What most people get wrong is that its only the media that is pro Palestinian and the leftist. I personal dont know anybody that sides with the Palestinians. Most people are disgusted after the riots in Oslo.
26 posted on 01/13/2009 2:51:35 PM PST by tomjohn77
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People are fed of the news reports and the support of Palestine. We are disgusted with the way the news portraits the Jews in this conflict. In fact the news have been very moderate lately.
27 posted on 01/13/2009 2:55:42 PM PST by tomjohn77
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A few years ago, the pastor of my best friends’ church had several Norwegians as guests. I spent time with them at several social events, including a couple of dinners. I would say that about half of them (3 out of 7), were uncomfortable discussing issues concerning Muslims. All of them voiced dismay at the number of consumer choices available in America. One was romantically involved with the pastor and refused to move here. Instead, he has since moved to Norway, where they were married. My take, erroneous though it may be, was that socialism and political correctness were both something all of them embraced wholeheartedly. These people were all in their mid-40s to early 50s, at the time. I could understand if people were changing their minds about the Muslims, given the recent events. I certainly hope so.

I take it you are Norwegian? My husband’s family are from Bergen. He has always wanted to visit. He has inherited the sailing gene.


28 posted on 01/13/2009 3:11:37 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: marthemaria

I sent the link to my 2 brothers in Norway. I’m hoping that they can tell me what some of the comments say.


29 posted on 01/13/2009 3:25:02 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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