Posted on 01/14/2009 3:51:41 AM PST by markomalley
As Barack Obama builds his administration and prepares to take office next week, his political team is quietly planning for a nationwide hiring binge that would marshal an army of full-time organizers to press the new president's agenda and lay the foundation for his reelection.
The organization, known internally as "Barack Obama 2.0," is being designed to sustain a grass-roots network of millions that was mobilized last year to elect Obama and now is widely considered the country's most potent political machine.
Organizers and even Republicans say the scope of this permanent campaign structure is unprecedented for a president. People familiar with the plan say Obama's team would use the network in part to pressure lawmakers -- particularly wavering Democrats -- to help him pass complex legislation on the economy, healthcare and energy.
The plan could prompt tensions with members of Congress, who are unlikely to welcome the idea of Obama's political network targeting them from within their own districts. Already, Democratic Party officials on the state level worry that it could become a competing political force that revolves around the president's ambitions while diminishing the needs of down-ballot Democrats.
Though the plan still is emerging, one source with knowledge of the internal discussion said the organization could have an annual budget of $75 million in privately raised funds. Another said it would deploy hundreds of paid staff members -- possibly one for every congressional district in certain politically important states and even more in larger battlegrounds such as Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Virginia and North Carolina.
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Of course, such a law would never apply to the Messiah...
When Obama has to face reality, and actually run the country, he will be forced into many compromises.
His followers will no longer believe in him, and will melt away.
Hatch Act ?
These people are going to fall VERY hard.
Brownshirts.
LLS
I don’t think so. He’s going to consolidate power in a way never before seen in this country, and he has a group of supporters who believe he is their messiah and would do anything for him and never even expect anything in return - they’ll never get disillusioned. And he will give them power, because they will be his brownshirts, and they are going to be very thrilled to use that power and will do anything to avoid giving it up. So while I would love to see them fall very hard, I don’t think it’s going to happen.
Obamastaffel
Well said, Livius. I would think that once his popularity starts to wane he would then start the ball-rolling for his Civilian Defense Force. I have read Shirer’s, Rise and Fall of The Third Reich,’ and it looks as if Obama’s handlers have done the same and are using it as a blue print.
IMO Obama will be at least a two term president. Even if his actions result in putting Israel’s exsistence in peril his handlers will merely institute a draft and place the US in a war-time situtation.
What we have on our side is that RINOs are leaving office, either losing to Dems. or retiring. We need to sow the seeds for the next generation by voting only for conservatives in the primaries. I don’t think we can continue by voting for the lesser of two evils.
Again to your post; succinctly, and correctly stated.
>> So while I would love to see them fall very hard, I don’t think it’s going to happen.
I tend to agree. We have passed the tipping point into socialism and world government.
There’s no way out that doesn’t involve revolution or armed insurrection (civil war). Not suggesting that will happen, or even should happen — but I don’t see any other way.
Wow, have you been sipping on their kool-aide? All this centrist/moderate activity is just a facade. If you want some insight into the future, just look at his Environmental Team and his Justic Department Team. These are the people/organizations that will drive Obama’s socialist agenda. Carol Browner as EPA chief will set a very aggressive socialist/elistist agenda (keep in mind that the extreme left’s environmental agenda is about personal rights and property rights and not the environment). The Justice Department, headed by Eric Holder as Attorney General will do the heavy lifting (dirty work). Hide and watch...
Organizers and even Republicans say the scope of this permanent campaign structure is unprecedented for a president. People familiar with the plan say Obama’s team would use the network in part to pressure lawmakers — particularly wavering Democrats — to help him pass complex legislation on the economy, healthcare and energy. “
“Brownshirts.”
Worse. This has the all the making of a Venezuela and combined with the bill to eliminate Presidential term limits we are about to see a radical change in this country.”
And there isn’t a thing that we can do about it.
Lovely.
Voting isn’t the answer, when the fraud is so rampant, open and goes unpunished. The bogus voting will only get worse, as will the pressure to vote *correctly*. Failing those means, they have the judiciary, who will rule in their favor.
The only possible method of surviving this is to counter organize. It may be too late, as the mechanisms are in place to immediately stop any conservative efforts to openly organize against the left. That leaves covert organizing.
I am not certain the window for that hasn’t closed, either.
The thought has congealed in my mind recently that this country is headed toward either becoming a third-world socialist sh*thole, or civil war.
Borrowing at thought from Sir Winston, the former does not preclude the latter.
When Obama has to face reality, and actually run the country, he will be forced into many compromises.
His followers will no longer believe in him, and will melt away
I hope so.........but with the ‘Blame Bush crowd’ for everything that goes wrong and a media cult for Obama, we have entered a long cold winter and the “melting” of his followers will be very difficult
Man you are spot on IMHO. Fraud is the backbone of this Admin. and they’re gonna sock it to us giving us little opportunity to organize and fight back politically.
I think the tipping point is actually being passed right now, and most people either don’t realize it or feel powerless to stop it. The window of opportunity is very nearly closed.
That’s why Bambi is working so fast to seal the exits. I remember when there was talk of these permanent volunteers months ago, before the elections, we all knew he was talking about his neighborhood spies and party block captains, ala Chavez and Castro, but we didn’t think he was really going to do it. (Well, I did.) But now it looks like it will be set up about as soon as he takes office.
And we’ve already got some goombah agitating to repeal the 2-term limit, so I don’t think we can even count on his going away in the normal course of time, as other presidents have done.
I think we’re in for some seriously bad times here.
Counterproductive, as usual.
I tried it on my own, one-on-one with various young people I came in contact with. Every time those young people began asking uncomfortable questions, they were swarmed by the local socialist nannies, taken under the wing of their new best friends, given *jobs* and helped with grant applications. These newly inculcated socialists were warned about *conservative rhetoric* and by then, their income and education was on the line.
For the past ten years, or so, I have retreated and concentrated on my own situation. Of course, the progressives had their plans in operation and we all are experiencing the loss of security, wealth and income they need in order to rule. Yes, some people are still doing all right and others are carrying on in reduced circumstances, but overall, the level of free-floating and reality-based anxiety has grown to a point where there are, IMO, only two options: capitulation or extreme marginalization. No one is going to fight against the source of their sustenance and personal security and that is where this is headed, quickly.
IMO, there is no way to fight this politically and there will not be a wide-based insurrection by anyone on our side. They aren't stupid and it will not come to a *nothing left to lose* situation quickly enough to rally anyone who still knows or cares about the nation. By the time people really wise up, the conventional wisdom will be “What can we do?” (shrug) People will find ways to circumvent the economic rules, the black markets/gray markets will solidify and the majority will go along in order to survive, even at a reduced level. The same individuals will do all three of the above, as they will correctly perceive that there are no viable choices. Those who actively rebel will be swiftly made examples of.
It has not been quick. Too many people thought that there was some sort of economically conservative establishment that would act in its own self interest and thereby, protect the rest of us. That establishment was co-opted long ago and like all good liberals, they are close to being eliminated for being the useful idiots they really are. We thought that traditional values would take generations to change. It really only took two and is now fait d'accompli.
From here on out there will be The Party of Government against everyone. Just as in any totalitarian state. I understand there is a bill pending to change or eliminate the 22nd Amendment. Barack Obama 2.0 will soon be updated and the new versions are going to be even more controlling.
We became too comfortable. We looked for leaders when there were none. We did not believe it could happen here. We laughed at the *loons*. We told ourselves we had vital skill sets and we would be just fine. We bragged about our personal arms. We take comfort from our hoards of precious metals or foodstuffs or other trade goods. We survey our owned, tillable land and think we will be allowed to use it for our own best interests. We make plans for foreign exile. We did not support anyone who sounded early warnings, finding fault with everyone who might even slightly disturb our fantasy of a Republic with any mention of reality-based exigencies. This decline into totalitarian statism has overcome civilizations throughout history. It is our turn and it is going to be everyone for themselves.
Our political organization is a joke and the Party of Government knows it. I expect there will be partisans and I expect, like the early founders, most of them are going to suffer extreme personal loss. I doubt we even have 1/3 of the population willing to fight for what we have lost and what most of them never really recognized. One-third is not enough against a modern police and welfare state with tracking technology, data-mining capabilities, ubiquitous propaganda and all the other means available to them to consolidate power.
We are going to have to hit bottom until some young person rediscovers the meaning the freedom and is capable of rallying their cohort to do something about it. Until then, the only course for most of us is The Church of the Low Profile.
Benjamin Franklin: "A Republic, if you can keep it."
A Republic is essentially governance by the rule of law.
A Democracy is rule by the masses.
An Oligarchy is governance by a small group of elites such as a family, royalty, the wealthy, military, occult or spiritual authorities.
Historically democracies have proved to be a transitory condition, bridging the gap between a Republic and an Oligarchy.
This is why the Founding Fathers gave us a Republic instead of a Democracy.
We are in the final stages of casting aside the rule of law (a Republic) for the rule of the masses (a Democracy) and moving rapidly toward rule of a group of elites.
Even the Supreme Court is placing feeling (desire of the masses) before law in it's refusal to consider the question of Obama's legal citizenship because it could "thwart the will of the people."
Benjamin Rush: "A simple democracy ... is one of the greatest of evils" (1789).
James Madison: "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths" (1787).
John Adams: "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide" (1814).
Alexander Tytler:"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess's from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."
Alexander Tytler: "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.
(Attribution of the last two quotes is often disputed)
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