Remember the "ozone hole"? That was the global environmental "crisis" that was threatening our planet with an imminent apocalypse — before being replaced by "global warming."
Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 01/20/2009 9:53:05 AM PST by Coleus
They’ve already done it. They phased out the inhalers that worked well for these awful things that barely deliver any medication, and cost through the roof.
These do gooders and their stupid climate nonsense will be the death of us. It’s eighty where I live today, with record cold everywhere else, but they are still determined to grease us up anyway.
More easily preventable deaths thanks to the UN and the greenies
Bad news is that it's true. The new inhalers suck ass. Almost literally. Sorry for the profanity but honestly I just can't think of a cleaner metaphor that fits properly.
My wife was moved to the new ones by her doctor about 6 months ago and they are completely worthless. Luckily she doesn't have corn allergies though so at least the new one won't kill her immediately. They also cost about $80 to $90 through normal pharmacies as opposed to the $12 she was paying for CFC. So she's getting ripped off while being killed slowly playing russian roulette with the crappy worthless non-working corn ethanol fueled inhaler.
The good news though is that Walmart is going to sell these new crappy ones (if they haven't started already) for about $9, which is $3 cheaper then my wife was paying for the old working CFC inhalers.
Either way they are crappy and will end up killing more people then a hole in the ozone layer ever did.
I’ll do what I can. I’ll paint my Halon fire extinguishers green.
I was trained in the use of CFCs and remember well that — when released to the atmosphere — CFCs are almost six times heavier than air. That meams that released CFC molecules drop and flow downhill just as water does.
Knowing that, I looked for explanations as to how CFC’s might possibly get into Earth’s upper atmosphere to destroy ozone; and found one book that mentioned it. It said that released CFCs could be picked up and lifted by tornados, aka “twisters.”
Beware of “scientists” touting environmental BS ... They are following money.
Nonsense. The “new” inhalers still deliver the exact same dosage of Salbutamol (100 mcg) as the old ones. The only difference is the propellant, which has no medicinal value. And they still cost the same.
Another bronchodialator called Advair, (the expensive one which costs around $150 for 120 metered doses) and also contains a corticosteroid, also delivers the exact same 250 mcg of medicine. The propellant has no medicinal value whatsoever.
And to claim that theirs something ‘wrong’ with the ethanol based propellant, that you wife is playing ‘russian roulette’ is ridiculous.
I guess your wife plays russian roulette every time she has a beer, a glass of wine, or a shot of whiskey and a host of all sorts of other medicines, and products containing ethanol.
Does the new propellant get that dose to the lungs or is a larger amount wasted in the mouth and throat because it doesn't get dispersed well enough?
They still deliver the exact same dose of medicine.
The propellant has no medicinal value whatsoever.
So unless you think CFC’s have some sort of medicinal value that made Advair and Salbutamol work, it’s all in your head.
I use both and they work just the same as they always did. The inhalers still contain and deliver the exact same metered doses of medication
Exact same amount of pressure in the inhaler as before.
The only problem with inhalers is most people don't know how to use them properly. They should use a Aero chamber until they learn how to inhale properly when using the medication.
I was sucked in to all they hype until I actually used the new stuff, and realized that it is no different at all that the old CFC propellant stuff, which is probably more dangerous even in the minute amounts they claim is used.
I have reduced lung function due to scarring caused by scleroderma.
I agree. I have been using asthma inhalers for years and I see no difference in effectiveness. I must say that the current inhaler I use has a better aftertaste than the old ones. I don’t know if that has to do with this or not. They cost the same for me and work just as well.
For years, I wasn’t using my inhaler properly. Most people I see using them use them incorrectly. I still use a spacer just to insure that I get the most from my medication.
No apology is necessary. The new inhalers are sh*t. They don't work as quickly, and are a pain since you must shake them for 1 minute before taking a puff. That's a lot of shaking when you're having an attack (I know...)
I hadn't heard about the Wal-Mart deals. I normally get mine though my military Tri-care care plan.
You are fortunate that the new inhalers work well for you.
However for many of us, the HFA inhalers 1. do not work as well, 2. do not work, or 3. result in serious problems.
In my case, I got a SEVERE asthma attack when ever I tried the new HFA inhalers. The new powdered inhalers, e.g. advair, also cause problems for those of us with milk allergies just like the corn ethanol causes problems for those with corn allergies.
As to comparing inhaling alcohol to drinking it, that’s just plain silly. Inhaled ethanol fumes are a known asthma trigger for many asthmatics.
In addition, the new HFA inhalers are prone to clogging, even when rigorously cared for.
The new HFA inhalers were rushed to market by the FDA for political reasons by-passing the FDA’s own testing requirements.
OOPS, I double posted.
my hubby has already been switched over and he hates them.
But we must be more concerned over a non-existent ozone crisis than we are for humans who can’t breathe well right?
For some reason, time after time, we keep giving into the stupid liberals and their stupid crises so they can feel good about themselves.
I’m glad the new inhalers work well for you. Consider yourself fortunate in this respect.
However, the new HFA inhalers 1. do not work for some, 2. do not work as well for some, and 3. harm some. When I tried the new HFA inhalers, I got the worst asthma attacks I’ve had in years.
HFA inhalers almost all contain corn based ethanol. Ethanol inhaled is a known asthma trigger; (inhaling alcohol is not the same as drinking it. Many people with asthma have multiple allergies, including corn.
In addition HFA inhalers are prone to clogging, even when diligently cared for.
The new powdered inhalers contain lactose which can be a problem for those of us with milk allergies.
The new HFA inhalers were rushed to market by the FDA for political reasons. The FDA’s own testing standards were by-passed.
Remember the "ozone hole"? That was the global environmental "crisis" that was threatening our planet with an imminent apocalypse — before being replaced by "global warming."
Nathan, you have no idea what you are talking about. As another poster pointed out, you are fortunate that HFA MDIs work well for you. Why don’t you leave it at that and shut the hell up? Do you think that because it works for you it must work for everyone? Are you that big a fool?
HFA-134a propellant has NEVER been tested on asthmatic and other pulmonary patients and may well be a problem for some patients.
Real world, large scale, rigorous postmarketing studies were never done on HFA MDIs- 40 million patients are undergoing forced real world postmarketing studies NOW- and NOW these programs are being uncovered.
Ethanol is a Class Three Residual Solvent and a PROVEN BRONCHOCONSTRICTOR when it’s ingested OR inhaled in MDIs for SOME asthma patients whether you like it or not- we have the medical papers on this linked to our site AS WELL AS a research paper explaining how this works in an animal model (don’t even try reading it, Nathan- it’s WAY above your pay grade).
The corn residue in the ethanol may be a problem for corn-allergic patients according to Sepracor (Xopenex HFA) and Schering-Plough (Proventil HFA) technical staff.
The extractables and leachables and OTHER impurities and inactive ingredients are all new in HFA MDIs and are undoubtedly part of the problem for some patients.
You are ignorant of the facts, Nathan.
Many, perhaps most patients CAN handle HFA MDIs. But we have physicians, surgeons, PhDs in pharmacology, RNs, Respiratory Therapists who are patients who know how to use MDIs who KNOW that HFA MDIs ARE NOT SAFE AND EFFECTIVE FOR ALL PATIENTS. Capisce, Nathan?
Question to all bloggers: WHY would a satisfied HFA MDI user ARGUE WITH AND ATTACK OTHERS WHO ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH HFA MDIs? What kind of fool would do that?
ANSWER: The drug companies hire internet trolls like “Nathan” to do exactly what “Nathan” is doing as part of their PR DEFENSE. This tactic is well documented.
So “Nathan” is either a fool who has not done his homework who is arguing about something he knows nothing about- or he is a paid internet troll. A liar. Take your pick.
To get the FACTS and read the DATA and SUPPORTIVE LINKS that back up all I’ve said and much more- and to join our campaign to legalize CFC MDIs, go here:
www.saveCFCinhalers.org
Arthur Abramson
The National Campaign to Save CFC Asthma Inhalers
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