Posted on 01/26/2009 4:27:32 AM PST by Zakeet
What detective said was sarcastic, but it was kind of funny.
And unfortunately the bad apples make life and education miserable for the majority that do want to learn. This is even more evident in inner city schools, where the pressure to NOT learn is tremendous (You think you’re better than everyone else!! You’re trying to be (another ethnic group), and so on...Thomas Sowell nails this well in a couple of books). The schools need to kick the bad apples onto the trash pile so that the other 80% can succeed in learning.
By the way, I think there is enough time in the day to cover math and English without eliminating recess. How about getting rid of all the other garbage being taught??
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Sure, we did it in the 60's, why can't they sit and behave now? When the teacher told us to shut up, we shut up
AMEN !!
That 15 minutes seemed like forever when I was 6 years old. Now it’s gone in a moment.
I agree with the article but like most pointy-headed academic research it makes an isolated point but misses the bigger picture.
Kids need recess and recreation. Kids also need to think, and to be challenged to think. Most importantly, kids need families with fathers and mothers who care about them and take time to make sure they are doing their homework and not getting into trouble.
15 minutes of recess isn’t going to save the kid with the crack whore mom and no dad.
kids had more recess time in the 60’s, and were more physically active.
Also - kindergarten was not mandatory, and most kindergartens were half day.
“15 minutes of recess isnt going to save the kid with the crack whore mom and no dad.”
no - but it might make him more manageable during the afternoon, and might help keep him off meds.
Yep! First one there lights the woodstove and shovels the snow off the steps!
“fewer physical outlets at school “because many school districts responded to the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 by reducing time committed to recess, the creative arts, and even physical education”
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Sure, blame it on legislation, instead of taking responsibility for inappropriately responding to the Act, and designing a curriculum that excluded recess (recess rocks!), creative outlets and gym.
“Yep! First one there lights the woodstove and shovels the snow off the steps!”
That’s another problem!
I remember our teachers giving us chores. Cleaning tabletops, beating the chalk out of the erasers outdoors.
At some point, parents began suing the schools for these things - saying it was the job of the janitors and teachers were guilty of forced child labor.
So now the kids can’t even be told to do simple chores!
Yes, but we had track-mounted nuns wielding WMDs (Weapons of Metacarpal Destruction--hardwood yardsticks).
You'd go to Hell for sassing one, and hurt the whole way there, hands too crippled to pray...
I agree. I have an ex sister-in-law that had migraine head aches when she taught in public school. She moved to a private school and now loves her job.
It is impossible to teach kids that have no rules and don't suffer consequences of their misactions. All recess games and sports that teach competition have been banned so they don't have their feeeeelings hurt therefore they don't develop skills for life. This keeps them on the Plantation.
The 15 year-old boy, who already speaks passable English, has been fretting to a sweat that he will not be able to keep up in an American high school.
His mathematics level, however, is probably somewhere around that of an American university sophomore mathematics major. And, by the way, most 15 year olds in Shanghai have a similar level.
I told the young man to relax and get ready for high school classmates in the USA who can't come anywhere near him in math, physics, and other sciences, and for testing out of the remainder of his high school math exams without much study at all.
This 15 year old will be able to focus on his language skills and play on the basketball team. The pressure will be off.
I hope, though that he doesn't dumb down to the level of his American classmates. I hope that he learns American history and the Constitution. Of course, he'll probably have stinkin’ liberals teaching him.
So, his new dad has been asking me for advice, and now they are considering private school for him, where the academic levels would be higher than the public schools.
You know, these kids in Shanghai are all building computer systems at age 15. When we have problems with computers, we ask the Chinese young people who work for us, and they get it worked out in very short order - hardware problems — software problems — they DELIGHT in problems for the chance to use their skills in fixing them; and they are humble in their success.
Conservatives need to be aware that the Chinese successes in recent years are not all the result of cheating in politics and trade. Their acquired positive skills make them them very competitive indeed.
The socialist liberals in America have worked very hard over the past 40 years to destroy the U.S. education system, while the skills and academic levels in countries which seek our demise have advanced far beyond our own. This has been deliberate — planned out — “DESTROY AMERICA'S CAPACITIY TO COMPETE”!
We must re-capture the education system from the Marxists in America. This cannot be accomplished, however, by criticizing private and church education where the problem is already recognized, and where the problem is actually a major reason for the very existence of such schools.
Private education must be encouraged and congratulated by conservatives. Government education and teachers unions must be continually reminded of the movements that are beating the socks off of them in academic levels and achievement.
Conservative representatives in Congress must stop trying to pretend that the public schools are good. They are not. They are a disaster and a shame, and the liberals in America have made them that way. This must be declared with clarion voices in Congress. The true statistics must be read out in any and all debates in Congress on the subject of education.
From 7th grade on, we were split into sections by standardized test score ranking and grades. That way there were groups of similar ability, similar achievement, learning together. Usually, the brighter the class, the less trouble they made.
Of course, that would smite some little Johnny or Jill right in the ol' self-esteem now, so that can't be done.
“All recess games and sports that teach competition have been banned so they don’t have their feeeeelings hurt therefore they don’t develop skills for life. This keeps them on the Plantation.”
yes - fortunately for my boys the whimpy teachers who want to ban competition are in the minority at their school.
That evil activity called “dodgeball” is still alive and well, and they live for it.
Was it ridiculous? I’m thinking you’d be on the losing end of a statistical analysis of whether his statement is accurate or not...
I guarantee that the majority of those that are failing in school and are involved in criminal activity do not have a father in the home, and have a statistically higher than average number of welfare mothers as their only parent. This is true regardless of the relative melanin content of their skin.
You’ve probably hit on something that would be an excellent solution, but would not be allowed by today’s liberal dominated school system.
When a boy (it’s usually a boy) won’t sit still in class,
send him to the gym coach, not to an isolation chamber.
The gym coach can then make him run a number of laps/line drills and pushups and then send him back to class.
That reminds me of a George Carlin bit...
"Sister Mary Holywater would use the steel ruler on the back of the hand for punishment.
"Johnny, stop goofing off! Johnny! JOHNNY!
"Come here Johnny! (Sound of steel ruler hitting hand)
Nun: "Mr. and Mrs. Smith Johnny's falling behind in his penmanship!"
"Of course he is sister. He's got to learn to write with his left hand!"
A lot funnier if you heard it.
Because you knew there would be unpleasant consequences. This is not allowed these days.
I have to agree with parts of this article. Kids, especially boys must have recess and PE.
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