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To: B-Chan

I’m glad you find it charming. I admit my experience with the law has been little and mostly positive (ok, 2 speeding tickets in 35 years). Still even if they are overbearing bad kinda guys (and I know you didn’t mean they all were, but lets just assume) why would they be so careless to whack someone in full view of witnesses (and their cameras)? That’s why I am leaning toward it being some sort of horrible accident. I don’t mean by that that the cop who did it should just be given a slap on the wrist. When you assume a position of such authority over others you really have to be held to a higher standard. But it will take a little more info before I believe he just randomly murdered that kid just because.
But, I’m open for more info. And if he did indeed murder that guy, hang ‘em high.


36 posted on 01/26/2009 4:12:28 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: brytlea

I’m in pretty much that same space. The first video of the cop shooting the guy looks pretty bad. Sure, the guy was fighting while being put in restraints but he did seem to be mostly under the control of the other cops that were all over him.

And it does look to me like the most astonished person of all after the shot was the cop that fired his weapon. It looks like a dreadful yet accidental shooting, not an intentional execution.

But I’m willing to believe either, depending on where the evidence leads.


38 posted on 01/26/2009 4:33:31 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: brytlea

I can’y imagine why anyone would whack someone at all, except in self defense or to stop them from assulting some other innocent person. As to why these cops would “whack someone in full view of witnesses”, I would guess that they did it in a fit of rage.

I’ll explain. In my personal experience, police officers tend to be insecure, aggressive, and often sadistic men with serious anger control issues. Imagine your average high school bully, only with a badge, a gun, and a license to kill. As do most people of this sort, they tend to be attracted to gang activity, and, since the Blue Gang is always the top gang in town, many are attracted to police work. It’s a chance to shake down the nerds for their lunch money, only with the full force of the law behind you. Now, most cops are able to keep the rage in check so long as the little people display the appropriate level of fear and deference, and thus go through their careers without being caught abusing a “civilian”. (Note that I said “being caught”.) But should a “civilian” fail to cringe at their presence, or God forbid show them any “attitude”, and the school bully rage switch goes to a hair-trigger state. At that point, one false move by the “perp”, and POW — blood on the platform in Fruitvale — or in your neighborhood.

This is why I advise people to have as little to do with cops as possible. To a cop, you and I are little people, punks with attitude, “civilians”. Nothing good ever comes of a visit by or with the police. Every badge out there is a ticking time bomb, ready to go off and ruin your life. If forced to deal with police, say nothing until your attorney is present. Do not look them in the eye. Keep your chin on your chest and your hands in plain view. These are dangerous gang members who have the legal right to kill you — and the Blue Wall of Silence to protect them from the consequences.

Note: all of the above is based upon my personal experience with police officers over the years. I’m sure there must be one or two honest cops out there somewhere, but the vast majority are as dangerous and unpredictable as your local ghetto gangbanger. Local cops are the worst; most state police officers are more professional and less likely to be gangster types; and military police are the best. This is one reason I think that armed police officers should be under the UCMJ — the school bully types can’t take the discipline, training and accountability necessary to be a military cop.


45 posted on 01/26/2009 7:48:36 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: brytlea

It could also be just plain rage...the horror could have been when he realized what he had done...couldn’t very well shoot all the witnesses.


48 posted on 01/27/2009 3:27:47 AM PST by bronxboy
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