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Creationist cosmologies explain the anomalous acceleration of Pioneer spacecraft
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| Dr. Russell Humphreys
Posted on 01/30/2009 5:47:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: gondramB; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...
To: GodGunsGuts
To anyone truly interested in this subject, read “The Elegant Universe”. You can thank me later. It is a very readable treatise on physics from Newtonian to relativity to quantum mechanics (the two aforementioned be apparently mutually exclusive) to string theory.
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posted on
01/30/2009 5:58:11 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: GodGunsGuts
The expansion of the fabric of space is accelerating from
an unknown force (dark energy). Maybe the expansion is
not only at cosmological distances but also locally in our
own galaxy and maybe even the space in our solar system.
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posted on
01/30/2009 6:24:14 PM PST
by
jesseam
(Been there and done that!)
To: GodGunsGuts
Thanks for posting the article.
“Creationist cosmologies (could) explain the anomalous acceleration of Pioneer spacecraft “
(fixed it)
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posted on
01/30/2009 6:25:31 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(The Last Boy Scout)
To: UCANSEE2
To: jesseam
. Maybe the expansion is not only at cosmological distances but also locally in our own galaxy and maybe even the space in our solar system.Expansion from every 'point' at the same time. Makes sense to me. Also seems to be the only way it could be.
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posted on
01/30/2009 6:28:31 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(The Last Boy Scout)
To: GodGunsGuts
Can they make predictions based on this theory?
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posted on
01/30/2009 6:30:48 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: tacticalogic
Yes. To include the anomalous acceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft.
To: jesseam
To: GodGunsGuts
Yes. To include the anomalous acceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft.Prediction means they said it would happen before it was observed. Is that what happened?
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posted on
01/30/2009 6:39:30 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: tacticalogic
Nope. But their cosmologies do explain the anomaly, whereas Big Bang cosmology does not. You don't have to anticipate every eventuality to determine which cosmology explains something better.
To: neverdem; SunkenCiv; Physicist
Physicist, I said long ago relativity is something I've never studied (quantum gas-phase inelastic neutral atomic / molecular scattering theory).
Any comments on the cosmological "potential well" idea ??
Cheers!
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posted on
01/30/2009 7:20:56 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: GodGunsGuts
That’s fine. But please don’t tell me they predicited it if they didn’t.
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posted on
01/30/2009 8:02:58 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: grey_whiskers
pioneer anomaly site:freerepublic.com
Google
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posted on
01/30/2009 8:03:03 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Thank goodness!
For a minute there I was afraid I'd pinged you to your own thread!
Cheers!
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posted on
01/30/2009 8:06:19 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: GodGunsGuts
To: GodGunsGuts
I can think of dozens of questions I would like to ask that simply cannot be asked because the axioms that scientists use.
If we were near the center of the universe, what kind of effects would that have on time?
What about blue and red shift?
Could this have anything to do with the Pioneer effect?
<Evolutionary Scientist>
Nonsense! Everybody knows the Universe has no center!
</Evolutionary Scientist> (In honor of Coyoteman)
Ah yes, consensus must not be questioned.
(Thanks for the ping!)
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posted on
01/31/2009 2:56:38 AM PST
by
Fichori
(I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
To: tacticalogic; GodGunsGuts; metmom
Thats fine. But please dont tell me they predicited it if they didnt.Now that they've got the pioneer data and they can predict the next event, or make new predictions based on such data, would you like a ping?
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posted on
01/31/2009 6:30:53 AM PST
by
tpanther
(The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
To: jesseam
The expansion of the fabric of space is accelerating from an unknown force (dark energy).You choose to believe in unknown force that has never been observed, quantified or tested. It is a construct to get the Big Bang theory to work out.
I choose to believe in Jesus, God in the flesh, creator of all things, who lived, was crucified, dead and buried, an rose on the 3rd day to prove His claims, He is attested to in the words of the New Testament.
Who has more faith?
Colossians 1:15-17 reads "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Ultimately, Jesus is the one (not the inanimate force) that you seek!
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posted on
01/31/2009 7:36:42 AM PST
by
jimmyray
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