HR 45 Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009

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[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Brought to you by the Obama Chicago machine. Are you ready for the House Bill titled 'HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009'.

It will make it illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#, SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit to mental amd physical health records being put on file, you will also be required to file any address changes and you must report any ownership changes even if private sale.

Each update will cost $25 and if you fail to comply you will lose your right to own firearms and be subject to criminal penalties.

This bill and its language mirror almost completely one defeated last year in the House of Representatives by soon to be Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Will we the citizenry be as lucky this time?

We cannot let them pass this bill!

Click Here HR 45 Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009

This could be us.England Gun Ban Update

[budwiesest]

Yikes! I’ll have to move the Revolution up a little earlier on my calendar.

[ought-six]

“Yikes! I’ll have to move the Revolution up a little earlier on my calendar.”

No kidding.

[ExSoldier]

From my cold dead hands.

[Still Thinking]

This bill and its language mirror almost completely one defeated last year in the House of Representatives by soon to be Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

Talk about misleading sentence structure.

[cayuga]

Yikes! I’ll have to move the Revolution up a little earlier on my calendar.

Flying the Gadsden Flag while the Marxist is in the White House. Have the Bonnie Blue ready for when the first state leaves.

[Centurion2000]

It will make it illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#, SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit to mental amd physical health records being put on file, you will also be required to file any address changes and you must report any ownership changes even if private sale.

One, this bill isn't going anywhere.

Two, I absolutely promise to ignore this law and refuse to obey it.

[meyer]

It’s almost time......

[Clairity]

No wonder guns are flying off the shelves...

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Seem open rebellion is upon us.

So be it.

[meyer]

So be it...

[Squantos]

They keep pushing that little bunny into a corner he can’t get out of and they will discover that warm and fuzzy critter has teeth.......

[Spktyr]

There is a more appropriate flag to fly, especially when they start making noises about more gun control - the Gonzales Flag:

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

As far as this bill not going anywhere. Quite sadly they have all their ducks lined up to pass garbage such as this.

I am still shocked Castro asked Obama today for Gitmo back saying Obama is breaking international law. No response from Obama.... but what IF..... Obama falls for this legal eagle international law shit and says ok? It is a nightmare.

[PGalt]

BTTT!

[George Smiley]

This bill is stuck in committee.

H.R.45

Title: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)

Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee.

Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

The fact that it has no co-sponsors, even among those in the Democratic Party, indicate how far "off the reservation" it is.

Link for checking on status of H.R. 45:

Seriously, this bill is an example of how Democrats overreach and accidentally show their hand.

Chance of reaching the floor, IMHO: None and none.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep an eye on it, though.

[JrsyJack]

When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

So what are they going to do put 20 million people in prison? Will ATF agents stake out gun ranges and sporting equipment stores to see who buys ammo, follow them home and confiscate their unregistered firearms?

[dusttoyou]

As far as Gitmo, anyone remember that jimmah gave away the Panama Canal?

Wouldn’t such a bill require super majority passage? Would have to pass SCOTUS as well, course right now it wouldn’t get passed but in a couple of years??!!

[waterhill]

I would usually tell people to joint the firearm lobbyist group of their choice....BUT, now I will just urge the people to buy lots of firearms and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of ammo....

I will not lay down, I will not go quietly. Molon Labe! Lock and Load!

It will be interesting to see how many LEOs fall in line with this. I do not think many will....

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I hope you are right but I have a feeling it will load up with sponsors once they pass the pork filled socialistic stimulus bailout for ACORN and birth control pills.

[CodeMasterPhilzar]

Two, I absolutely promise to ignore this law and refuse to obey it.

I'll second that.

[djf]

Why can’t Congressmen be sued or impeached for proposing unconstitutional laws?

[budwiesest]

on the afternoon of May 10, 2007, Blair Holt, a junior at Julian High School in Chicago, was killed on a public bus riding home from school when he used his body to shield a girl who was in the line of fire after a young man boarded the bus and started shooting.

A better solution than shafting every gun owner in America would be to issue body armor to all students in cities like Chicago. Wouldn't cost that much and would protect them just the same. "If it's good enough for cops, it's good enough for our kids."

[dusttoyou]

Thanks for the “early Texican Flag”.

[George Smiley]

Everybody now has the link I put up from thomas.loc.gov to keep up with the bill’s progress.

If it gets co-sponsors, they’ll show up there.

If it gets put up for a vote in committee, it’ll show up there.

[umgud]

Come and get it.

[montag813]

If Judd Gregg takes the Commerce job, the Dems get 60 votes and this passes the Senate and becomes law.

[JrsyJack]

A better solution than shafting every gun owner in America would be to designate Chicago an open carry zone and issue a sidearm issue body armor to all students. in cities like Chicago.

fixed it...

[blueplum]

the Supremes recently visited this issue; hopefully, Scalia’s decision will hold.

best regards, blu

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4220300.ece

US Supreme Court strikes down Washington DC’s gun ban

June, 2008 - Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, said that the Constitution did not allow “the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defence in the home”. The court also ruled as unconstitutional DC’s requirement that other firearms be equipped with trigger locks or kept disassembled.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

It will be interesting to see how many LEOs fall in line with this. I do not think many will....

I hope you are right, but I expect at least 8 out of 10 LEOs to fall into line with those who pay their retirement benefits.

A surprising number don't even know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing, so expecting them to support the constitution is perhaps a stretch.

[bushwon]

H.R. 45—This bill is stuck in committee.

<<Thanks for cogent response.

[Enterprise]

Soon on the heels of this will be a denial of federal benefits to anyone who does not comply with the law. Then, there will be pressure on States, Counties, and Cities to enforce the law or else federal funds will be withheld. If they cannot impoverish you and your family, they can threaten to impoverish others to give them incentive to attack you.

[budwiesest]

Why can’t Congressmen be sued or impeached for proposing unconstitutional laws?

Best question I've read in a long time. Please take a seat at the front of the class. ;^)

[El Gato]

It will make it illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#, SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit to mental amd physical health records being put on file, you will also be required to file any address changes and you must report any ownership changes even if private sale.

Well not *all* firearms, just all handguns, and all semiautomatic firearms with removable magazines. You would have to go through a dealer to any firearm, and I suspect they would be keeping records of the instant background check, even if the law doesn't change the "destroy after approval" provision of the current Brady Act, although I don't recall if it does or not.

Other than my pump shotguns, I only have one gun that probably would not be covered by the licensing provisions, an SKS. Eric Holder might very well rule that since it's magazine *can* be removed by pushing out a pin, and there are magazines that purport to be "removable" available for it, that even the SKS is covered. All three handguns are doublely "qualified", that is fitting both criteria. All three rifles do as well. (Even though one of each is a .22 rimfire, there are no exceptions for those). Unfortunately I only have two completely off the books firearms, from private party sales, both of which would be "qualified" under this bill.

[LibertyRocks]

I’m not so worried about Obama “falling for” ANYTHING. I’m more concerned about him giving it to Castro WILLINGLY. After all, we already know that some of Obama’s best friends have very strong ties to Cuba (Craig, Ayers)!

Again, Obama won’t be “falling for” anything. If there is one thing he’s not it’s stupid... He is a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist/Socialist/Communist. EVERYTHING he is doing is a result of THAT philosophy. He is a stereotypical “Red-Diaper Baby”...

Obama’s the ONE alright — the one McCarthy tried to warn us would appear 50 years ago...
(NOTE: Whether one agrees with McCarthy’s methods or not, he was right about the threat...)

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

If Judd Gregg takes the Commerce job, the Dems get 60 votes and this passes the Senate and becomes law.

This is getting downright scary. Is this a nightmare?

[cayuga]

There is a more appropriate flag to fly, especially when they start making noises about more gun control - the Gonzales Flag.

Thank you. I am familiar with that flag. I just don't own one....yet.

The Bonnie Blue is subtle. I doubt 2% of the Sheeple even know what it is. I'm looking for the 2% that do.

[El Gato]

One, this bill isn't going anywhere.

You know this how? The Dims will ram through whatever they want.

They said the same thing about a certain first term Senator with no executive experience about 2 years ago.

Two, I absolutely promise to ignore this law and refuse to obey it.

Ditto, it would violate my oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against *all* enemies, foreign and domestic". The hell of it is, I don't know which The One is, foreign or domestic.

[El Gato]

Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L.

Co-founder of the Illinois branch of the Black Panthers.

[Blood of Tyrants]

If you can go to jail for an “unregistered” .22, why not have a machine gun?

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

[budwiesest]

That would be mighty American of you, but Chicago and most big cities are not America.

Body armor may be illegal to own, yet our kids are dying. "Kevlar For Kids"!!

Let the Left try to come out against Kevlar for Kids. They can't do it. Their hypocrisy would be on parade. Tommy Hilfiger could sow one into a hooded sweatshirt for pennies. You could even get one for low-pants wearers to prevent getting your butt shot-off.

[El Gato]

Chance of reaching the floor, IMHO: None and none.

More likely, and how likely I don't know, it will get incorporated into some "Must Pass" Omnibus Something Or Other bill, just like the assault weapons ban did.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I did not mean it literally about Obama falling for anything. Where I was trying to go is his liberal ideals the way he wants to protect terrorists and shut down Gitmo. What I meant was he has the mindset to tell Castro yes take Gitmo.

No other President (not even Clinton) has done foreign policy like such a blatent marxist. Not even Clinton or Jimmay Carter negotiated with terrorists and spoke in perfect tongue with Iran's arachmadinajad abdul P. terrorist that is in bed with commie russia and china.

[Spktyr]

Yeah, but it may be *too* subtle.... also, it’s not great to be running around with an emblem of, to be frank, failure.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

If you can go to jail for an “unregistered” .22, why not have a machine gun

Now THAT is the spirit!

[El Gato]

No wonder guns are flying off the shelves...

And going for exorbitant prices. I inquired about an "optics ready" Bushmaster carbine at the same store where my coworker's wife bought him one for Christmas a year ago. She paid $700, they now want $1200.

[stylin19a]

bobby rush...again ! no cosponsors.

[visualops]

Some talk this evening of the possible appointment of that Republican to Obama’s gubmint, which could result in Dem governor appointing a Dem to replace him and give the Dems their 60 votes.

[familyop]

"As far as this bill not going anywhere. Quite sadly they have all their ducks lined up to pass garbage such as this."

Democrat voters in rough, inner-city neighborhoods are very much against firearms control laws. Democrats in favor of such laws are much more often than not, white, wealthy suburbanites.