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Richard Shelby wants Senate to filibuster stimulus bill
Dothan Eagle (AL) ^ | 02/02/2009 | Lance Griffin

Posted on 02/02/2009 8:50:55 AM PST by Pokey78

U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa, said he is prepared to filibuster the proposed economic stimulus bill, but fears enough Republicans will side with Senate Democrats to override any attempt to block the bill’s passage.

Shelby’s remarks came during a county meeting Monday morning at the Wiregrass Rehabilitation Center in Dothan.

The Senate is expected to debate a proposed $900 billion stimulus bill this week. A similar measure passed the House last week. Shelby said the plan will not provide the quick boost the economy needs.

“Are we prepared to filibuster? Hope so,” Shelby said. “But I’m afraid we may have two or three (Republicans) that might jump ship.”

Democrats control 58 seats in the Senate. Sixty votes are needed to end a filibuster.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2009; bhostimulus; congress; economy; porkulus; republicans; richardshelby; senate; shelby; stimulus

1 posted on 02/02/2009 8:50:55 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78

Who are the defectors? We will melt their phone lines and crash their email. Ask Boxer.


2 posted on 02/02/2009 8:52:41 AM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: Pokey78

Hold the line senator.


3 posted on 02/02/2009 8:53:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Pokey78

Good idea!

It is such a stinking pile of ...

Send the dems back to the drawing board.


4 posted on 02/02/2009 8:53:10 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: Pokey78
Waste of time. It will only highlight the impotence of the GOP.

With the half dozen or so RINO's in the Senate....

Hussein has a 'CLOTURE PROOF' Senate.

5 posted on 02/02/2009 8:53:38 AM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: Pokey78

Do the filibuster and we will identify the traitors. simple as that.

Don’t back down.


6 posted on 02/02/2009 8:55:19 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: stockstrader

Oh. Another concede and appeaser. I guess the first bail out of wall street bought you off stockstrader.


7 posted on 02/02/2009 8:57:49 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: o_zarkman44

We know who they are.


8 posted on 02/02/2009 8:58:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Pokey78

Remember the so-called ‘nuclear option’ to stop filibusters? The one that the ‘rats said would be a horrible thing when they were in the minority? Now that they are in the majority they’ll use it so fast it’ll make your head swim.


9 posted on 02/02/2009 8:59:54 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: Pokey78

This Porkulus Bill will separate the patriots from the weenies. And the weenies will pay with their seats the next time they run. We must defeat them in the primaries, so they can’t buy the general election, as they usually do.


10 posted on 02/02/2009 9:00:50 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Pokey78
If they filibuster the stimulus bill, they will lose the argument.

They must publicize the wastefulness of the spending. They must never call the bill stimulus. They must argue all spending after this year is pork. They must publicize all wastefulness.

11 posted on 02/02/2009 9:01:51 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: o_zarkman44; Eric in the Ozarks
We know who they are.

What Eric said.

12 posted on 02/02/2009 9:01:55 AM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: Pokey78

“Reagan69” wants senate to filibuster stimulus bill.


13 posted on 02/02/2009 9:04:31 AM PST by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: Reagan69
“Reagan69” wants senate to filibuster stimulus bill.

George... is that you?

14 posted on 02/02/2009 9:06:22 AM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: stockstrader

OK, so who are the??? I want to blast them with email, letters, faxes!!


15 posted on 02/02/2009 9:08:33 AM PST by aragona
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To: Oldexpat

Who are the defectors?

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The “Gang of Two” (McCain and Graham), of course. They’re the mavericks and the conscience of the Senate, ya know? /s

Could consider a filibuster limited to a short duration (days). Just enough time to hammer on the most egregious manifestation of Dem pork in the bill.

Too long, and Pravda will just bombard them with “shutting down gov’t” and “stopping the recovery”—etc.


16 posted on 02/02/2009 9:08:52 AM PST by VinL (VinL---former username (wegotsarah.com))
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To: Pokey78
“Are we prepared to filibuster? Hope so,” Shelby said. “But I’m afraid we may have two or three (Republicans) that might jump ship.”

Your ship's already been hijacked, senator.ARRGH!!


17 posted on 02/02/2009 9:09:49 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: aragona
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547711/posts

You can add Hagel for sure to the top four, and McCain and a couple of others if you like.

18 posted on 02/02/2009 9:10:52 AM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
If they filibuster the stimulus bill, they will lose the argument. They must publicize the wastefulness of the spending. They must never call the bill stimulus. They must argue all spending after this year is pork. They must publicize all wastefulness.

They need to filibuster in the traditional sense - spend day after day explaining on the floor of the Senate why the gigantic pork bill is bad for the country. They need to alternate attacks between individual stupid items in the bill (condoms are gone, but there are many, many more stupid items) and the foolishness and irresponsibility of any bill that size. This is a great opportunity for the GOP to speak up when they are clearly in the right and can explain why they are right, and their words will make the news. Unfortunately, McCain is a lot like the PLO, he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

19 posted on 02/02/2009 9:11:44 AM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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To: Pokey78

BTTT


20 posted on 02/02/2009 9:25:57 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Pokey78
The racist, anti-American organization ACORN get $5 billion to wage war against the White middle-class.

Obama Bill Hands ACORN $5.2 billion Bailout

This is your money folks.

21 posted on 02/02/2009 9:27:06 AM PST by blam
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To: o_zarkman44

Exactly, make them identify themselves.


22 posted on 02/02/2009 9:28:59 AM PST by PAR
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To: stockstrader

Thanks but this is an old list from 2005.....I know I saw a current list somewhere. I’ll go poke around.


23 posted on 02/02/2009 9:29:47 AM PST by aragona
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To: stockstrader

First of all, Chuck Hagel is no longer in the Senate. Secondly, when he was, he was one of the better ones on spending. People here have labeled him a RINO just because of his position on the war.


24 posted on 02/02/2009 9:30:58 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: stockstrader

You can surely count on the two bimbos from Maine...Snowe and Collins.


25 posted on 02/02/2009 9:32:42 AM PST by surrey
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To: surrey

No question about it. Snowe, Collins and Graham are enough right there. McCain is always a wild card.


26 posted on 02/02/2009 9:41:10 AM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: surrey

Specter certainly qualifies also.


27 posted on 02/02/2009 9:49:07 AM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: Pokey78
Who are the turncoat Republicans??? I'm sure Juan McPain is one of them. Graham and who else? If these as*h*les get reelected next time, there is no real Republican party anymore.
28 posted on 02/02/2009 10:01:45 AM PST by mojitojoe
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To: Pokey78

No one is stopping you, Shelby.

Have at it.


29 posted on 02/02/2009 10:03:03 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s a little more complicated than the number of RINOS. This bill is so bad that some Dems may vote against it.

Unfortunately, the Paulson bailout convinced many citizens that what we need is a new bailout that gives money to lower income people, i. e. 2 wrongs make a right. It’s not clear how many voters support the Dem Swine-ulus. As usual, the result of polls depends on how they ask the question.


30 posted on 02/02/2009 10:05:48 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: freekitty
No one is stopping you, Shelby.

Is it a little bit odd that the author of the article identifies Shelby as the Senator of Tuscaloosa? Since the author is in Alabama, and the article is printed in an Alabama newspaper, it seems that this error is more than a mere oversight. Odd.

31 posted on 02/02/2009 10:11:55 AM PST by lonevoice (Ich bin ein plumber)
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To: stockstrader

“Waste of time. It will only highlight the impotence of the GOP.

With the half dozen or so RINO’s in the Senate....”

NOT a waste of time.

It will be a time of separating the real Republicans who stand for fiscal sanity from the liberal socialist Democrats waging a War on Prosperity and the RINO fellow travellers who are a waste of air.

It’s time to see where people stand.


32 posted on 02/02/2009 10:16:13 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“If they filibuster the stimulus bill, they will lose the argument. “

Um, this is backwards. If we DONT filibsuter, we lose the argument by default. you cannot win an argument if you done MAKE the argument, and the best way to MAKE the argument is to tie it up in cloture and keep it on the floor.

Debate the heck out of the bill. The more people know the less they will like it.

“They must publicize all wastefulness.” Filibuster does this.

There is a reason MOveon.org is already running ads in favor of the trillion dollar boondoggle. They are DESPERATE for Republican votes for this stinker.... why?

They want to make this a bipartisan bill so there IS no argument. Having to actually argue for this wasted govt spending will be a disaster for the liberals and they know it!


33 posted on 02/02/2009 10:19:49 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: lonevoice

Yep. However, when have facts been important to the Left?


34 posted on 02/02/2009 10:20:56 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Polls from Ras showd 42% support and 39% oppose.
Clear majorities favor tax cuts over spending as a better stimulus.

This is an argument the Republicans can win. The Democrats went WAAAY too far in stuffing it with useless pork. The Republicans have a duty to sink this bill.


35 posted on 02/02/2009 10:21:54 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: WOSG

Sorry, they don’t filibuster in real life like they do on t.v. They currently invoke Senate Rule 22 which effectuates the stall but doesn’t require halting Senate business and listening to recipes or arguments. If Senate Republicans plan to invoke the rule, they will lose. If they plan to actually filibuster, they can make the case. It depends on whether there remains any “gravitas” in the Republican caucus.


36 posted on 02/02/2009 10:41:39 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Pokey78

Oh, hell, if the Dow drops to 7000 by Friday, they’ll cave, just like when Bush bamboozled the country by signing the 700 Billion giveaway.


37 posted on 02/02/2009 11:16:23 AM PST by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: WOSG
>>This is an argument the Republicans can win. The Democrats went WAAAY too far in stuffing it with useless pork. The Republicans have a duty to sink this bill.<<

And to do that, they need to convince the public that 2 wrongs (the Bush/Paulson bailout and the Obama Swineulus) don't make a right. I tried to explain that to my son's flag football coach by telling him that the Dem "stimulus" has billions for organizations that are pushing voter fraud. He said he didn't know anything about that, but he said that something like Obama is going to do the opposite of Bush, which he thinks is a good thing. I can't defend Bush's handing of the economy in 2007. I hope the USA doesn't have to learn about inflation the hard way.


38 posted on 02/02/2009 4:16:46 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: WOSG

Should say, I can’t defend Bush’s handing of the economy in 2008.


39 posted on 02/02/2009 4:45:29 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“but he said that something like Obama is going to do the opposite of Bush, which he thinks is a good thing. I can’t defend Bush’s handing of the economy in 2007”

What nonsense, these Obama voters are full of ignorance:
1. Obama’s treasury secty is the guy who was New York fed chairman, who set up and ran the Fed operations to ‘help wall street’ for the past year. That’s why he’s ‘indispensible’, he’s one of the guys calling the shots.
2. Obama voted for TARP, supports it, wanted another $350 billion, made Bush ask for it from Congress.
3. Obama voted for the stimulus of 2008 - IRS rebates, housing bailout in July 2008, etc. His policies are no different from the Bush 2008 policies

The issue is not ‘opposite’ or ‘same’, its what will or wont work. The trillion dollar deficit boondoggle bill is not going to help the economy.

“I can’t defend Bush’s handing of the economy in 2007. “ The economy was doing okay until the Democrats took control of Congress. They are to blame too.


40 posted on 02/03/2009 1:38:27 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: WOSG
What nonsense, these Obama voters are full of ignorance

Exactly. That makes it harder to convince them. Sometimes I wonder if reality matters to them.

3. Obama voted for the stimulus of 2008 - IRS rebates, housing bailout in July 2008, etc. His policies are no different from the Bush 2008 policies

I am not defending Obama. He is worse than Bush in just about every category. We'll see how he succeeds, or not, in keeping jobs here.

The economy was doing okay until the Democrats took control of Congress.

It didn't blow up until the Dems were in control of congress, but IMO these problems go back a lot farther than 2 years.

They are to blame too.

You got that right. The party of whoever is POTUS usually gets blamed for things that happen while he is in charge, and millions saw their funds go way down on Bush's watch. The economy might get even worse under Obama, and just maybe the voters will be smart enough to blame him for it this time.

41 posted on 02/03/2009 6:25:24 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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