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Steele: GOP Should Reach Out To Gay, Pro-Choice Voters
Video Cafe (via Fox News) ^ | Feburary 1, 2009 | David Sunday

Posted on 02/02/2009 9:17:17 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior

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To: ForeignDude

Awesome post

It seems like many on FR have lost their sense of liberty and simply want to impose religious facism on the rest

I am baffled by those who make abortion issue number 1 when there are so many other threats to liberty which they conveniently ignore


181 posted on 02/02/2009 10:37:57 AM PST by MadIsh32 (The token Muslim :))
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...I’d even allow those AIP jugheads in.OL


182 posted on 02/02/2009 10:38:16 AM PST by jla (Sarah! sarahpac.com)
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To: Will88
"but none have defined it as a workable strategy.

If the GOP can't look back through it's historical accomplishments and then summarize it's overall position in five short sentences (or less), it probably was never relevent to begin with.
183 posted on 02/02/2009 10:38:29 AM PST by indthkr
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Maybe I’m missing something but what’s wrong with trying to reach out to other groups? Weren’t people on here not long ago saying how we needed to educate more minorities and other groups on what the Republican Party stands for? The Republican party =/= Conservative Party. Like it or not, we’ve got to get the White House out of control of the Dims. Each political party has their factions, and lets face it, the MSM has painted the social conservative base to be something it’s not. If the Republican party pushes fiscal conservatisim (no bailouts), no expansion of government, and national security, they can easily win next cycle.

As much as I would love to see the social conservative bloc do better, there’s not many left in the either House or Senate. Pledging to not vote or w/e is only admitting defeat and basically giving four more years to that POS B.O.

There are more important immediate things than getting upset at someone who’s trying to gain numbers. If you don’t like what he’s doing or have a better suggestion, why not email him? Chairman@gop.com for your convenience.

And if this post gets me banned from FR, well, I enjoyed my stay.


184 posted on 02/02/2009 10:39:56 AM PST by Txngal
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To: Responsibility2nd
Now who’s a liar? What you are conveniently ignoring is that this veto was not aimed at supporting same sex partners. But rather she was vetoing excess porkage in the state budget in order to bring Alaska into having a balanced budget. Take your pro-gay crap elsewhare.

LOL!

You are a complete liar. Palin herself never used that made-up BS of yours--how would vetoing that help a budget situation, it would be spending MORE?

She did it to comply with SCOTUS judgments.

But by YOUR rationale she MUST be pro-gay--she vetoed a bill and, as a result, made tax money available to go to same-sex couples.

It's funny seeing someone so ignorant hanging themselves! LOL!

185 posted on 02/02/2009 10:41:05 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: Troll_House_Cookies
Abortion stances don’t win elections.

But abortion stances would definitely lose elections for Republicans. And it was hardly a front burner issue during the 2008 election. It was only mentioned about once, during that Saddleback church pow wow.

For whatever reason, you seem to be the one who has blown that issue greatly out of proportion. It's been a basic plank in the Republican party for years. Do want it changed?

186 posted on 02/02/2009 10:42:47 AM PST by Will88
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To: Troll_House_Cookies
Conservatives win elections only when they stand on consistent principles. They will also draw those voters who agree in different degrees.

We do not need to reach out to special interest groups, as special interest groups, which is what Steele is doing. We reach out to people, who ever they are, on principle.

But conservative principle includes ethical and moral standards. Pro-life is not really a special interest group, it is rooted in a standard. It is a principle issue which defines what genuine freedom means.

187 posted on 02/02/2009 10:43:00 AM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: 2nd Amendment
Sarah Pac Here
188 posted on 02/02/2009 10:43:03 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: TADSLOS

I have to change my interpretation of what he meant when he said he’d knock down anyone that got in the way of the new RNC direction from liberal RINOS to the true conservatives like folks from Free Republic and those that listen to Rush that want a more conservative party. If he is telling conservatves he is going to knock us down and push us aside to get out of his way, then the Republican Party as we knew it is goig to get pretty ugly, and hope the party revolts.


189 posted on 02/02/2009 10:43:18 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

This is entirely the wrong approach and I strongly disagree with Steele. Most disappointing.


190 posted on 02/02/2009 10:43:33 AM PST by TAdams8591 (When Obama FAILS, America SUCCEEDS!)
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To: Darkwolf377
The time has come to take back Reagan's party and restore his vision of America... nothing is ever easy and the things that matter most are the hardest.

LLS

191 posted on 02/02/2009 10:43:36 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Just mythoughts
What can the royal 'we' offer to the gays and prochoicers that they cannot get from Bama liberals?

Did you read my post where I detailed that?

192 posted on 02/02/2009 10:44:18 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“there are VERY FEW pro-choice voters”

I am a pro-choice republican voter.

I am very reluctantly pro-choice, however. I am not religious, and it is my deep love of human freedom that compels me to support the procedure with restrictions and conditions.

Honestly, though, the abortion issue is about 99 on my top 100 list of issues facing America today. Right above welfare for polar bears, maybe.


193 posted on 02/02/2009 10:44:24 AM PST by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: Gunder
Not just NE and Pacific. The Abortion ballot went down in flames in SD and when Republicans tried to replace science with Creationism in Kansas and Cobb County Georgia they were defeated soundly in the Republican Primaries. Polls were running 80% against the Republican action in that whole Teri Schevio mess.

Rush is only partly right when he says “Conservatism wins everytime it's tried”

Fiscal yes it's true, but Social Conservatism (a.k.a. Christian Socialism) on the other hand repels

Case in point, Embryonic Research, which was on the ballot in Missouri and New Jersey

In 2006 In Conservative Missouri, it was fought as a moral issue yet it still passed by a large margin,

Yet in 2007 in Ultra Liberal New Jersey, it was fought as a fiscal issue and ended up being soundly defeated.

Fiscal should come 1st, social issues should be hearts and minds issues not federal government ones. Focusing on the social issues over the fiscal ones is what has brought the GOP to disater. Continuing that path will ensure we never win an election again. Don't like abortion, don't have one, don't like what's on TV, Don't watch. Meanwhile if you don't like the spending on a particular program, try not paying your taxes, see what happens.

194 posted on 02/02/2009 10:44:42 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Will88
So, point out some specific common ground you think will be found between Republicans and pro-choice voters, and pro-gay rights voters.

For one, i think the vast majority of people really don't want over half of our economy socialized, but that is exactly where Pelosi and Obama are taking us.

195 posted on 02/02/2009 10:44:43 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: itsahoot; spectre
Same question to you? This Forum will not stand up under the Log Cabin, anti 2nd amendment, pro abortion onslaught.

Don't forget the Feminist onslaught. Big government to help women raise their children in place of the husband and father.

"Breaking the glass ceiling" is Jane Fonda, et al, not conservatism.

196 posted on 02/02/2009 10:45:51 AM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism)
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To: MadIsh32
It seems like many on FR have lost their sense of liberty and simply want to impose religious facism on the rest

I wouldn't agree with your assessment here. Can there be no greater liberty than be allowed to live, which millions of babies are denied?
Now, some Freepers do tend to think narrow-mindedly. And some are just frustrated that the we haven't yet returned to our glory days of the 80s.
But, we will all fight and call each other names, then rally, (for the most part), in 2010 and 2012.
I honestly believe that the one person who can bring the desired unity to the Party, thus to conservatives, is Sarah Palin.

And I am proud to state that this is my first post, and hopefully not the last, to FR's "token Muslim".

197 posted on 02/02/2009 10:45:52 AM PST by jla (Sarah! sarahpac.com)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Blackwell should have won.


198 posted on 02/02/2009 10:46:04 AM PST by Jeb21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: WrightWings

I agree with you.

The problem with the GOP is that they abandoned small government principles.


199 posted on 02/02/2009 10:46:17 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The problem is that they are trolling for a bunch of folks who are liberal on the 2nd amendment, national defense and other issues. Frankly, if someone works against my interests I damn sure don't intend to protect theirs.

It is not about protecting their interest in gun grabbing or gay marriage, it is about finding people who are willing to fight against this unprecedented expansion of government that we are headed towards.

200 posted on 02/02/2009 10:46:46 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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