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Does Michael Steele Pass Muster With Conservatives?
Human Events ^ | 2/4/2009 | Martha Zoller

Posted on 02/04/2009 2:01:43 AM PST by markomalley

The mainstream media will never give him a break, but conservatives should probably be comfortable with new RNC Chairman Michael Steele. On CNN, Don Lemon asked the CNN political reporter, “Is the RNC pandering, is Michael Steele legitimate?”

In an appearance on my radio program on Monday, Steele said “the Republican party is called racist when they don’t reach out and pandering when they do.” He went as far as to tell a reporter that asked him if he was legitimate to come back when he had a real question. If only the questions about his credentials were coming from the left. So the question is, will Steele pass muster with conservatives?

Three months ago, I wrote about Steele after we participated in a panel on the 2008 Elections. I believed then he would be the next chairman of the party, and it had nothing to do with race.

It was not an easy path to the chairman’s office for Steele. Groups opposing his involvement with the Republican Leadership Council say he’s too liberal. When Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday tried to box him in on the RLC’s mission to recruit pro-choice and pro-gay rights Republicans, he said he was not going to focus in on two issues and then invoked Ronald Reagan. However, these two issues are at the core of the social conservative agenda.

Michael Steele is a social conservative. He’s encouraged by the success groups in California cobbling together social conservatives, religious Latinos and Blacks on Proposition 8 in November. In 2008, the value of preaching a socially conservative agenda in minority communities increased dramatically. Prop 8 represents the future of the morality movement in America, and Steele sees it as both a winning movement and a way to mend fences with social conservatives who think he’s not one of them.

The new chairman understands the GOP message on immigration, and he knows how to communicate it. It’s not just conservatives that want border security. Steele said on Sunday, “The GOP's position on immigration is very much the position of many, many Hispanics who are in this country.” Steele went on to make the case when he said, “The GOP's position is secure our borders first. Let us know and let us make sure the American people know that we've taken care of the important business of dealing with illegal immigration into this country. You cannot begin to address the concerns of the people who are already here unless and until you have made certain that no more are coming in behind them…. How we messaged that is where we messed up the last time. We were pegged as being insensitive, anti-immigrant, and nothing could be further from the truth, because you talk to those leaders in the Hispanic community, they will tell you the same thing. They understand the importance of making sure the United States' borders are secure.”

That is the grassroots position held by a majority of Americans, not just conservatives.

The elephant in the room for Steele is not whether he’s a conservative -- he is -- but rather will he be conservative enough for the grassroots of the Republican Party. The code language for this is Christian conservatives. CCs are the most hated, loved or feared group of people in the Republican Party, depending on your point of view. The RINOs think these Bible-thumping hayseeds are ruining the party, but Christian conservatives represent the Party’s core values; RINOs don’t. And you can’t win without Christian conservatives. Steele is one of those Christian conservatives and has talked openly about his Roman Catholic faith.

Conservatives are responding positively to Steele but are wary. They’ve heard the talk before. Action is the only thing that will calm their fears and lead to wins for Republicans by getting the grassroots engaged again. Chairman Steele is hitting the ground running with updates to the website and how they will collect and disseminate information. He’s beginning to target upcoming elections in New York, New Jersey and in the off year. He knows he needs some wins under his belt, and when he gets those, conservatives will begin coming back to the fold and be happy about it. This Republican Chairman will have to be about message and a call to action. He’s got one election cycle to prove himself, and I think he’s up to it.

So will Michael Steele pass muster with conservatives -- fiscal conservatives and social conservatives? Yes, he will, and I think the hard-fought battle to become RNC Chair has honed his skills. He’s political, he wants to win and is conservative at his core. If he implements as well as he’s adapted in his campaign to be RNC Chair, then he’ll move conservative values forward through Republican wins.

But one warning from a Christian Conservative who believes he’s conservative enough to move the party forward: Don’t recruit wishy-washy conservatives. A party is only as good as the candidates and the actions they take once elected, and the electorate is impatient. You have a 4-year term, but like President Obama, your midterm exam is in 2010 and will determine what the future holds for you and the Republican Party. But for now, Mike, keep leaning right.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; familyop
....His positions on gun control and homosexual marriage....

[Quoting article]

He’s encouraged by the success groups in California cobbling together social conservatives, religious Latinos and Blacks on Proposition 8 in November. In 2008, the value of preaching a socially conservative agenda in minority communities increased dramatically. Prop 8 represents the future of the morality movement in America, and Steele sees it as both a winning movement and a way to mend fences with social conservatives who think he’s not one of them.

Further to your post, this article shows that Steele is in fact a social conservative and against the homosexual lobby's attack on marriage and marriage's normative power.

familyop, your crusty act cuts no ice with me, either. You want to bash the guy, take responsibility for it. You're stalking and spamming Steele threads. I have spoken.

21 posted on 02/04/2009 3:20:28 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: CowboyJay
Definitely has the right take on illegal immigration.

Steele is a RINO on imigration. Yes, he supports the fence but that is followed by his support of AMNESTY for the 30-40 million ILLEGAL socialists from mexico.

Amnesty would guarantee a permanent majority for the 'rat-commies. Forever.

Only a socialist supports amnesty.
Steele supports amnesty.
Steele, at best, is a RINO ala jorge & juan.

Thanks, but no thanks!

22 posted on 02/04/2009 3:30:48 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: nathanbedford

>>a strategy must be developed to penetrate the red states and that implies selling something that the voters want to buy

Real fiscal conservatism of the sort the Republican Party pretty much abandoned 2001-2008 would be a great start.


23 posted on 02/04/2009 3:35:18 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"What positions? I see a typical NRA talking point in his reply on gun control."

["his reply on gun control"]
"Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill. But I don't think that means you go to a total ban for those who want to use gun for skeet shooting or hunting or things like that"


24 posted on 02/04/2009 3:39:35 AM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Caipirabob
In Maryland, we liked him a lot as Lt. Governor.

He would have been a great Senator, but the DemocRATS/Crooks elected the bum Cardin instead.

Side note: The so very tolerant and inclusive DemocRATS were the ones who threw Oreo cookies at him during the campaign.

25 posted on 02/04/2009 3:40:37 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"familyop, your crusty act cuts no ice with me, either. You want to bash the guy, take responsibility for it. You're stalking and spamming Steele threads. I have spoken."

...and spoken pretty much the way Ellie Smeal, Linda Elrod and others of their kind did to me with false accusations. ;-) I posted quotations and facts. You've replied so far with accusations based on your own rhetoric. There's been no "stalking" (serious accusation and libel on your part) and no "spamming."


26 posted on 02/04/2009 3:45:49 AM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: familyop
I did not write any rhetoric on Steele regarding abortion. Next!

I didn't say you did.

Do you want to do the "message board wiseacre" thing, or do you want to have a discussion? Because I don't think this is an issue that's there for your enjoyment to one-up people.

You posted a specific exchange Steele made. You obviously are trying to make a point.

Ball's in your court--do you want to help all of us get to the bottom of Steele's actual position, or just goof around on a message board with little "gotcha!" quotes?

27 posted on 02/04/2009 3:46:30 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: Check6

Isn’t that what Steele is saying here?


28 posted on 02/04/2009 3:49:26 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: familyop

Having looked at your other responses on this thread, I think I have my answer. No need to reply further, thanks.


29 posted on 02/04/2009 3:52:26 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: BellStar

I too have always had a gut feeling hat this was a good man.. lets give him a chance


30 posted on 02/04/2009 3:56:03 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: nathanbedford
I hope so -- in Steele's case I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and even support. But I do remember listening as he hosted for Bill Bennett's morning talker, that I wish he wasn't (1) so go-alongish and (2) that he was more firmly grounded in the Founder's ideals.

The Founders would never have allowed a HUD, an Education Department, the Federal Drug Laws, and so on and on. The Founder's set up a limited Federal Government -- none of these post-Wilson, post-FDR, post-LBJ programs without a vigorous national discussion leading up to a Constitutional Amendment. I have not heard Steele address this fairly. Nor has he fairly addressed the natural born issue, nor properly noted the absolute corruption, criminality, venality and treason of nearly all of Obama's political cohort.

31 posted on 02/04/2009 4:05:36 AM PST by bvw
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To: Darkwolf377
"You posted a specific exchange Steele made. You obviously are trying to make a point."

...no posting of Steele's words allowed? Steele made those points, and I do object to them.

Over the past couple of years, dissent from Republican members in regards to the Party movement further to the left has too often been answered with baseless rhetoric, anecdotes, insults and false accusations (e.g., the Giuliani flamefests). I recently left the Party, in part, because of that and was essentially told by the Party, as so many others have been told, "good riddance."

By your comments, it appears that you want to see some opinions from me. Alright. Here they are.

If you would rather compete for the votes of aging Hillary fans on their way to the nursing homes, then that's your prerogative. But stifling conservative dissent from facts with waves of rhetoric, insults and implied threats will bring further political consequences.

We've had it with

* Anti-family politicians (so-called "affirmative action" included).

* Anti-Second-Amendment politicians.

* Anti-defense politicians (including CFR members).

* Anti-American politicians (supporting anti-American, anti-defense business practices in favor of antagonistic, communist nations).

* A two-party system becoming effectively a one-party system that is more European in nature than American.

Supporting such politicians and using uncivilized arguments for them may temporarily get more funding for your Party, but it will also deprive your Party of needed votes for a very long time.

My positions are state quite well behind the following link, even though I do not own the site.

http://falconparty.com/


32 posted on 02/04/2009 4:25:14 AM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: familyop
...no posting of Steele's words allowed?

When did I say that?

You're obviously more interested in word games than in a serious discussion, and playing the victim instead of being clear, is a waste of everyone's time. Have a good day.

33 posted on 02/04/2009 4:38:06 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: markomalley
He** no... no more so than olympia snowe or susan collins or christy whitman could.

LLS

34 posted on 02/04/2009 4:38:23 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: markomalley
He's another black RHINO.

The GOP is the “STUPID PARTY”.

He likes AFFIRMATIVE ACTION and GUN CONTROL.

He's the new J.C. Watts or Colin Powell.

He was selected not for his CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGY by rather the COLOR OF HIS SKIN.

35 posted on 02/04/2009 4:38:35 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Isn't it a pity?

If olympia snowe were black we could have made her head of the impotent RNC. That would be a double bonus pointer -
BLACK and FEMALE!!!!

36 posted on 02/04/2009 4:40:29 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: familyop
steele is a socialist and is also a racist... for affirmative action and reparations are inherently racist agendas... and steele embraces both so tightly that he has dented them.

LLS

37 posted on 02/04/2009 4:40:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Isn't it a pity?

If olympia snowe were black we could have made her head of the impotent RNC. That would be a double bonus pointer -
BLACK and FEMALE!!!!

On second thought do we have a part BLACK and part HISPANIC WOMAN that we could leverage on RACE AND ETHNICITY? That would really make the STUPID GOP gush with joy. That's how STUPID the GOP has become. They are just as surfacy and RACIST as Demoncrats.

38 posted on 02/04/2009 4:42:11 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: lentulusgracchus
We fight the enemies of liberty wherever they raise their heads... get used to it... we will point out every knife steele sticks into the backs of Conservatives. FR is a CONSERVATIVE SITE... not exclusive to repubic bots and their elitist country club army!

LLS

39 posted on 02/04/2009 4:44:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
their elitist country club army!

That needs to be kept in mind. The Rockefeller Republicans need to be kept in the grave.

40 posted on 02/04/2009 4:46:35 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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