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Death by SWAT
Reason ^ | January 2009 | Radley Balko

Posted on 02/06/2009 11:02:54 AM PST by ellery

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I have a hard time seeing how SWAT and no-knock raids are compatible with either the fourth amendment or pro-second amendment measures such as Castle laws.
1 posted on 02/06/2009 11:02:54 AM PST by ellery
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To: bamahead

ping — I searched and didn’t see this posted. If this is a repeat, please disregard. :)


2 posted on 02/06/2009 11:03:36 AM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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And the police in this country continue to be supplied with military tools with no additional training.......


3 posted on 02/06/2009 11:06:36 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR......Monthly Donors Wanted)
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“That means 68 percent of the time, we’re getting guns or drugs off the street. We’re not looking at it as a win-loss record like a football team

SWAT, "we only accidentally kill 32 out of a hundred, we're worth it"

4 posted on 02/06/2009 11:07:19 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Obamma would surely approve of these stats as long as none were muslim


5 posted on 02/06/2009 11:09:23 AM PST by shadeaud (Time to smell the roses and not the stench coming from D .C.)
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*&^%$&# SWat **(*&&*#$@ and (*&& no knocks.

Another success in the Drug War.

Going swimmingly, isn’t it?

Oops, sorry, you dead, me baad.


6 posted on 02/06/2009 11:10:45 AM PST by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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Re: “A subsequent investigation revealed that Officer Joseph Chavalia heard another officer shooting Terry’s two dogs, mistook the noise for hostile gunfire, panicked, and fired blindly into the room where Wilson was kneeling. Chavalia was charged with involuntary manslaughter, but acquitted.”

Let’s see—according to this account, he fired his weapon without identifying his target (who could have just as easily ended up being his fellow officer). Needless to say, the Brady Campaign, Dianne Feinstein, and so on will again tell us that only the police should have guns.


7 posted on 02/06/2009 11:10:56 AM PST by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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Or hoodrat drug dealers / gangbanger illegals.

Anyone gainfully employed without a violent criminal record is fair game.


8 posted on 02/06/2009 11:12:46 AM PST by BobbyT
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Careful, the JBT supporters (at all costs) should be here shortly.
9 posted on 02/06/2009 11:14:56 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

It's really, really difficult for me to work up any sympathy for cops who get their sh** scattered during these raids anymore.

NK raids should be reserved for only the most extraordinary circumstances, not routine pot busts.

L

10 posted on 02/06/2009 11:15:15 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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When the unarmed Wilson was shot, she was kneeling on the ground, complying with police orders.

I guess the 1 year old wasn't complying fast enough. /s

11 posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:04 AM PST by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

The problem is, when a cop does unfortunately get killed in these raids, raid pushers use the fact as justification for why these raids are needed in the first place.

12 posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:21 AM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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A subsequent investigation revealed that Officer Joseph Chavalia heard another officer shooting Terry’s two dogs,

They're always shooting the dogs.

mistook the noise for hostile gunfire, panicked, and fired blindly into the room where Wilson was kneeling.

Rule Four: Know what your target is, and what lies beyond it.

13 posted on 02/06/2009 11:21:50 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

Are you kidding? If cops start dying, they will start using tanks. Oh wait, they already have them. Maybe F-16's will be the next step.

JBT ping
14 posted on 02/06/2009 11:26:22 AM PST by 109ACS (Humpty Dumpty Was Pushed!)
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No-knock raids must be outlawed at the federal level. I wouldn’t mind seeing SWAT completely ended. If paramilitary is needed, send in the National Guard.


15 posted on 02/06/2009 11:28:18 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Like in this thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2178431/posts

16 posted on 02/06/2009 11:29:18 AM PST by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

Things are beginning to happen. In the Mayor Cheye Calvo case, where a raid happened to someone in power, they are proposing a bill to make statistics on these raids more transparent (cops are trying to withhold that information for obvious reasons).

Research in Colorado is showing that cops are lying to get SWAT raid authority in at least 80% of the cases by claiming the houses affected have guns. Getting these statistics will be important in ending these dangerous and irresponsible raids.

Death by SWAT

In addition, we need to start charging these cops with animal cruelty when they kill people's pets.
17 posted on 02/06/2009 11:29:58 AM PST by microgood
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"Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done."

The police, armed with increasingly lethal weapons, will endlessly escalate the arms race. Many SWAT teams are now equipped with up-armored tactical vehicles, essentially small tanks. These Rambo wanna be's saw too much embedded reporter film footage from Fallujah and want to do the same thing. The only difference is that these big gun, small d*ck LEOs didn't have the balls to try it as part of the 101st or 5 Mar Div.

18 posted on 02/06/2009 11:30:50 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: ellery

one of the lovely fruits on the drug war...


19 posted on 02/06/2009 11:31:25 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Beware, world! I haz camera!)
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To: EdReform

placemark


20 posted on 02/06/2009 11:33:34 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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