Ted Kennedy's Health Care To Be Rationed? (Vanity)

Torch The Mummy | 2/9/09 | Torch The Mummy

[torchthemummy]

As discussed by Rush and others, embedded in the "stimulus" bill is a creation of the "Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research" which would essentially be empowered to ration treatments based on factors such as life expectancy and cost effectiveness which would result in medical dollars for older patients being denied and transferred for the use of younger, "still productive" patients.

It would seem that an appropriate question would be whether Ted Kennedy's incurable brain malady would have been determined "a waste of resources" and thus rationed/denied services?

[torchthemummy]

Maybe a rhetorical question since there will surely be a two-tiered system.

[St. Louis Conservative]

Not a chance. Ted Kennedy considers it his life mission to foist universal socialized healthcare on the common folk, but rest assured, if he needs a gastic bypass or a liver transplant, Ted won’t wait for a second for care. He’ll receive gold-plated treatment and the finest doctors. Waiting is for the peasants like us (and no, under Teddy’s plan you don’t have the right to pay for private coverage).

[mnehring]

It would seem that an appropriate question would be whether Ted Kennedy's incurable brain malady would have been determined "a waste of resources" and thus rationed/denied services?

Ahh, but look at the Soviet system for example. All the politburo members where able to partake of the goods and services the plebeians where not allowed. At that, the goods and services of the plebeians where reduced specifically to provide more to the PTBs. Of course the message was always that it was to provide fair and equitable services for all the plebeians..

[DoughtyOne]

LMAO, yes he’s a fat tub of lard and needs to step aside.

He should volunteer to die. After all, that’s what his ilk are planning to implement for the rest of us.

You first Senator Swimmer. Didn’t you already implement this policy back in the 60s BTW? And she was in her late twenties. Wow.

[G.Mason]

Is Teddy Kennedy still alive?

[gracesdad]

You got the bucks, you’ll get the treatment. Kennedy has the bucks.

[Gaffer]

Once the Democrats have (as they do now) absolute control and power, they will seek ways of improving the efficiency of their vote buying. They will come to the realization that pandering to fears of old people with promises of free healthcare, etc. is not efficient in terms of ‘bang for the buck’. They will decide that the long term value of old people is limited because they get sick and will cost a lot of money per vote. They will opt, instead, on pandering to those, the young, to whom they can enlist long term. Once they have the total majority hooked, then comes the tyranny and open mind and behavior control - total subjugation.

[angcat]

Unfortunately

[DonaldC]

Those with the gold make the rules. In the free market system, the insurance companies decided who got what and the people cried. Now it will be the gov and the people will cry, maybe a little louder, but they will get used to it and that will be that.

[blondee123]

Only for us peons, the government will do as they please!

[Diogenesis]

Two-tiered Justice.
Two-tiered Healthcare.
Two-tiered Requirement to Pay TAXES

AMERICA 2009;

Two-tiered Taxes, Healthcare and Justice is Equality
Eliminating and Incapacitating the US Military is Strength
Detention camps for Republicans and Conservatives and Non-Muslims are Nature Preserves
Tax Cheating is Fair (except for Proles who will be audited, fined, jailed, and beheaded)
Freed and Armed Terrorists Make for Increased American Safety
Censorship is Transparency
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

[hgro]

Ted Kennedy will find a way to swim ashore while a deserving young person will by left to suffocate in the swirling water of Kennedy bumptiousness.

[Falcon4.0]

They're already thinking way ahead of that. Once they Federally fund Acorn. They'll then push to make them “Federal Agents” al-la TSA Screeners, but Acorn will be charged with “Election Monitoring”.

[G.Mason]

I'm afraid you are correct.

As they send the more older of us to death, the younger of us should remember that they will also be ground up under the foot of statism, as will the infirmed, and sickly of any age ... down the road a bit.

[super7man]

I am looking for investors to open a resort hospital complex a few miles across the Mexican border. It will have it’s own airstrip and an 18-hole golf course for those visiting patients. It will be staffed with the best American trained doctors. Or you may bring your own doctor.

We will break ground as soon as we can scam some to the Obama bail-out money. It’s gunna pay for illegals here, why not just keep them home?

Anything can be done for a price.

[mom-7]

The congress critters will continue to receive the same health care that they now have courtesy of the tax payers. After all they won. The sad thing about this is that the public does not know or care what socialized medicine is. They think that they are going to get something for nothing.

[King Moonracer]

Those with the gold make the rules. In the free market system, the insurance companies decided who got what and the people cried. Now it will be the gov and the people will cry, maybe a little louder, but they will get used to it and that will be that.

Sad but true.

But hey, we'll get more pie, and we won't have to worry about gas for the car or the mortgage payment.... Unless we've been greedy and not given enough pie to those "who stand behind us". More pie, more pie!!!! /bitter sarcasm

[Gaffer]

They’ve already got the vote thing ‘knocked’. They are going to have to start thinking ‘bang for the buck’ like I said (it leaves more for them, individually). It will suck to be old in the near future - imagine being told the treatment for your non-debilitating ailment is too expensive, just live with it and eventually die.....

[ncpatriot]

The gov’t will build a “box”. Those who fit in the box will get care. And those who fit in this box will be those who do what gov’t likes: no drugs, no fat foods, right age, plenty exercise, no disability including old age, those who are not overweight, those who follow doctor orders, those who respond to treatment, those who don’t cause problems, etc.

Don’t know what happens to those who have money who are outside box like Rumsfeld who is older and Kennedy who is older and overweight and h/o alc abuse. What happens to these rich folks? Guess they will pay out of pocket which most of us just can’t afford> thousands of dollars for surgery or other treatment.

I just do not like this!!!

[Personal Responsibility]

I have said for a long time - when people are forced to live with the ramifications of their decisions then they tend to make better decisions. Poor decisions come from not having any skin in the game.

As long as government does not have to live with the system they designed it will not get better because as much as they can claim to care about you...they don’t care about you as much as YOU care about you.

[Aria]

Here in Oregon a woman was told that she was too sick for the State to pay for chemo but they offered to pay for her assisted suicide drugs.

Soylent Green is coming.

[Gorzaloon]

which would essentially be empowered to ration treatments based on factors such as life expectancy and cost effectiveness which would result in medical dollars for older patients being denied and transferred for the use of younger, "still productive" patients.

Then the latter had better get the Obama stickers off their bumpers because, since "All politics is local", should I get an adverse diagnosis and am refused treatment, I am taking those bastards with me.

[ought-six]

Soylent Green anyone?

[The Great RJ]

Just like paying taxes, following the rules is not for the elites like Daschle or Kennedy.

[swain_forkbeard]

Rationed care is for the little people.

[Red Boots]

Those with the gold make the rules. In the free market system, the insurance companies decided who got what and the people cried. Now it will be the gov and the people will cry, maybe a little louder, but they will get used to it and that will be that.

Right. The decisions of who gets to live and who gets to die will be made because they must. The only thing is that before insurance, the individual made the decision of when health care was no longer cost effective. He used his own dime, and made his own decision. With insurance, insurance companies made the decisions, tho your doctor could overrule if he cared enough. Now, big government bureaucrats are going to decide when your care is no longer cost-effective.

Someone explain to me, why the American public wants government health care so badly ? Because they think that everyone will get everything they want/need, but this is childish thinking. Adults know that hard decisions have to be made, and it's best if each one makes their own.

[Political Junkie Too]

Soylent Green anyone?

More like Logan's Run.

-PJ

[ZULU]

Nothing wrong with Ted that a good ride over the Chapaquidick bridge couldn’t cure. I have nothing nice to say about this guy and never will.

[Dick Bachert]

It is my feeling that Teddy should get the same level of health care as that received by Mary Jo K after he heroically pulled her from that car in...

What’s that?

NEVER MIND!!

[The Duke]

Is Teddy Kennedy still alive?

Unfortunately "ugly" isn't terminal.

[lonestar]

I think Teddy and Ginsberg should be the examples of Universal Health Care treatment now-—so we can see how it will work for the rest of us...but they will never be treated like the rest of us!

[Ole Okie]

Ted won’t wait for a second for care. He’ll receive gold-plated treatment and the finest doctors. Waiting is for the peasants like us (and no, under Teddy’s plan you don’t have the right to pay for private coverage.

Well folks, O'Bungle told us and told us that his mission is "Hope, not fear" and that he represents "Change you can believe in".

He tole Plumber Joe that he was going to spread the wealth, and Plumber Joe immediately got an anal exam for daring to ask an impertinent question of the Master.

And just a week or so ago O'BoomBoom informed some of the legislature that their changes were DOA hecause "I won".

It isn't hard to take the "I won" pronouncment as another way to say "To the victor belongs the spoils". Marcy and Andrew Jackson saw it that way, and obviously O'Bumble does too.

We won! We will decide who lives and dies!

The porkulus bill is an outrage, and the new health standards are going to be even more so.

[TexasRepublic]

It would seem that an appropriate question would be whether Ted Kennedy's incurable brain malady would have been determined "a waste of resources"

Ted and his whole damned clan have *always* had an incurable brain malady (Liberalism), and as such, are a waste of resources, namely air.

[Anti-Bubba182]

"..It would seem that an appropriate question would be whether Ted Kennedy's incurable brain malady would have been determined "a waste of resources" and thus rationed/denied services?.."

Good point, but as always, it is one standard for the rich and powerful and another for the rest of us.

[sergeantdave]

“be empowered to ration treatments based on factors such as life expectancy and cost effectiveness which would result in medical dollars for older patients being denied and transferred for the use of younger, “still productive” patients.”

And the flip side is that armed citizerns can also make choices on who will live.