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Scientific McCarthyism
RenewAmerica ^ | February 9, 2009 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 02/11/2009 12:15:32 PM PST by neverdem

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Change Some May Not Want You To Believe In

The attitude of the young is quite encouraging. "0% agreed among those in the 18-24 year-old age bracket"!

1 posted on 02/11/2009 12:15:32 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Executive Summary: WAAAA WAAAA I’M A VICTIM WAAAA WAAAA UNFAIR WAAAA WAAAA


2 posted on 02/11/2009 12:17:51 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: neverdem

read later


3 posted on 02/11/2009 12:21:26 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: neverdem
I am surprised that an article titled “Scientific McCarthyism” makes no references to global warming.
4 posted on 02/11/2009 12:30:59 PM PST by Between the Lines (Liberals wanting a massive bailout leaves Conservatives wanting to bail out en masse)
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To: neverdem

There appears to be some evolutionary structure, particularly in genes, that withstands scientific scrutiny.

However, it appears also that alot of it doesn’t fit anything at all.

Thus to struggle on with God....


5 posted on 02/11/2009 12:50:37 PM PST by onedoug
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To: neverdem

Are medical schools being McCarthyist by not wanting to consider supernatural alternates to disease, such as demonic possession (which lots of people believe)? No - they rightfully stick to germ theory, which is valid, testable, and has held up to over a century of challenge. If a frustrated witch doctor wanted demonic possession to be on the medical school curricula, he’d accuse the “establishment” of being McCarthyist towards him too.


6 posted on 02/11/2009 1:13:26 PM PST by PC99
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To: neverdem
What are they afraid of?

Science being destroyed by religious fervor.

Thus science admits that nature can offer no explanation for the origin of either.

And that is outside of evolution, a completely different question being studied by astrophysicists.

the vast majority of randomly occurring mutations are harmful

Vast majority. Give me hundreds of billions of mutations and there is much room for non-harmful mutations.

As Michael Behé pointed out Darwin's Black Box

And as has been pointed out, Behe is wrong. Let it go, the horse died a long time ago.

Significantly, not even Darwin believed his theory could explain the origin of life. That's why his seminal work is called Origin of Species rather than Origin of Life.

The brings up this true statement, yet brought up the "origin of the universe" question above against evolution. It seems he is using the standard strawman tactic, hoping readers have a VERY short memory.

7 posted on 02/11/2009 1:19:09 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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The operating assumption of all Creation Science writers is that their target audience is at least as, if not more, ignorant of science than the writer is.

Much to their relief they are almost always correct in this assumption.


8 posted on 02/11/2009 1:21:58 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: neverdem
I just learned something. February 12th is the 100th birthday of Charles Darwin -- also of Abraham Lincoln.

Any connection?

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9 posted on 02/11/2009 1:36:01 PM PST by JCG
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To: neverdem
"This raises the question: What are they afraid of?"


10 posted on 02/11/2009 1:39:08 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: steve-b; sickoflibs
You missed the point. The evolution side won't tolerate a debate. If they are so confident in natural selection, then they should welcome the debate. They resist because they are so invested in secular humanism and atheism. Doesn't that remind you of the global warmists/alarmists? "The debate is over." How about there's no correlation of abortion with breast cancer when the NY State Department of Health stated not long ago about the increased prevalance of breast cancer on Long Island in effect that not having a full term pregnancy increased the risk of breast cancer?

CORAM, MT. SINAI, PORT JEFFERSON STATION (CMP) FOLLOW-UP INVESTIGATION pdf format

The importance of reproductive factors in affecting breast cancer risk has been known for a long time. Women who have never given birth (or had a full-term pregnancy) are at a higher risk for breast cancer compared to women who have carried a pregnancy to term.(Page 26)

Never had a full term pregnancy also includes abortion. Where are those clowns that say there's no relation between breast cancer and abortion? It has a very good, politically incorrect section, "BREAST CANCER RISK FACTORS," with references that starts on page 25.

How about they have to continue with embryonic stem cell research when they they discovered cellular reprogramming of somatic cells without viral assistance?

Do We Still Need Embryonic Stem Cells?

Promotion of Reprogramming to Ground State Pluripotency by Signal Inhibition

I don't have a problem with evolution, but I thought we still have a First Amendment for those who don't agree with evolution.

11 posted on 02/11/2009 1:52:06 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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The so-called “debate” is simply heckling from the peanut gallery. It is equivalent to hiring witch doctors with beads and rattles as advisors to the National Institutes of Health or publishing Truther conspiracy theories as an addendum to the official report on the 9/11 attacks.


12 posted on 02/11/2009 1:56:14 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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It’s either God or magic. Take your pick.


13 posted on 02/11/2009 2:01:02 PM PST by webboy45
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To: Between the Lines
I am surprised that an article titled “Scientific McCarthyism” makes no references to global warming.

I took up the slack. See comment# 11.

14 posted on 02/11/2009 2:01:53 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: antiRepublicrat; PC99; allmendream
Science being destroyed by religious fervor.

Which religion? See comment# 11, please.

15 posted on 02/11/2009 2:05:56 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

btt


16 posted on 02/11/2009 2:16:09 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: neverdem
Evolutionary theory is contravened by the pre-Cambrian explosion, in which untold numbers of complex life forms appear suddenly and fully formed in the fossil record, with nary a trace of intermediate, transitional forms.

Misrepresentation of the Cambrian explosion is a cornerstone of the worst of some ID proponents. Fish appeared in the late Cambrian - well after the initial 'explosion'. Entire cladistical families - amphibians, reptiles, mammals, birds - did not appear until after the Cambrian. Land was not inhabited at the end of the Cambrian. It's like implying there wasn't a house next door yesterday and a complete house is there today - when all that is present is the foundation and some framing.

17 posted on 02/11/2009 2:28:16 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: neverdem

Any religion.

That post takes the issue beyond evolution to prove a point about evolution, which it doesn’t.

We do have politicially-influenced science these days, and Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change is a prime example. But it is unrelated to evolution. GWCCC is a very recent idea and has been politically pushed by various people with vested interests (economic, political, ideological) since the beginning. Evolution grew from being the underdog and only attained its current status on the top of the scientific food chain after over a century of scientific work on it despite attacks from all sides.

Yes, most scientists laugh at flat-earthers. The bar to a challenge being taken seriously is quite high with such a long-established science.

As for the 1st Amendment, go for it. Nobody is stopping you. But the 1st Amendment does not require that others take you seriously.


18 posted on 02/11/2009 2:34:50 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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To: steve-b
It is equivalent to hiring witch doctors with beads and rattles as advisors to the National Institutes of Health or publishing Truther conspiracy theories as an addendum to the official report on the 9/11 attacks.

There's plenty of things that we don't know with absolute certainty. The NIH has spent significantly on alternaive medicine. We don't understand the placebo effect. If it helps their faith, good for them. They'll probably live longer. I keep coming across studies like this one.

Religious participation and mortality risk among the oldest old in China.

19 posted on 02/11/2009 2:36:24 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
but I thought we still have a First Amendment for those who don't agree with evolution.

Nope, and it is not limited to Evolution. Try Global Warming. Gay marriage, and a host of other ideas.

Amazingly these Scientist are all about inquiry and truth, unless it does not agree with their conclusions, and those conclusions are often determined buy grants.

20 posted on 02/11/2009 2:39:45 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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