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MARINE VETERAN KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL FOR POSSESSING FIREARMS
Oregon Firearms Federation ^ | 2/10/09 | unknown

Posted on 02/12/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by goodnesswins

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
would they be trying to prosecute/persecute him then?

Of course. He would have been charged with effective self defense and showing the JBTs police as ineffectual.

61 posted on 02/12/2009 12:33:40 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: goodnesswins
Dispicable
62 posted on 02/12/2009 12:37:39 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: goodnesswins

Where is the NRA? This is the sort of thing that ought to be litigated with their help.


63 posted on 02/12/2009 12:44:12 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I’m sure the NRA has been told...probably getting ready...this is a relatively new action...


64 posted on 02/12/2009 12:46:47 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: SoldierDad

No, he only had to do those things if he wanted to stay in school. The whole thing is just BS and I would sue their collective asses off if I was this guy. Apparently that is what he is doing.


65 posted on 02/12/2009 12:48:47 PM PST by calex59
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To: RaceBannon

It is legal in Oregon for those with concealed weapon permits to carry a weapon on any public property (including public schools) except courthouses.

If it was a private business, they are well within their rights of saying no weapons allowed.


66 posted on 02/12/2009 12:49:24 PM PST by dirtman
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To: RaceBannon

>>Schools do have the right to deny access to their property if you have a weapon, they do it in Connecticut all the time with their ules, no guns, no weapons

This very much depends on their local laws, and it is clear that there are at least some state legislators there who do not see it your way. Pronouncements of a university president are not law, no matter how much they may think so. I hope this particular university president gets an expensive lesson in this fact.


67 posted on 02/12/2009 12:49:35 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: RedMonqey; rednesss; El Gato

>>Read post no.20

Read post no. 42


68 posted on 02/12/2009 12:53:32 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: stylin19a
The President of the university retains the right to control weapons on campus, regardless of CCW.

Title 18, section 242, Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

Sue them into oblivion.

69 posted on 02/12/2009 1:01:50 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT an administrative, collective, corporate, legal, political or public ~entity~!!!)
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To: goodnesswins
The tribunal that tried Marine veteran Jeffery Maxwell laughed after suspending him from Western Oregon University and sentencing him to:a "psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others" and a mandatory "ten page paper" " with references, "citing, but not limited to: 1) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience. 2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions 3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others." So, Maxwell has been told his lawful possession of a firearm on campus is evidence of mental illness and he must "confess his sins."

Doesn't this "university" realize that Mr. Maxwell is a paying student (i.e. a customer)? If it were me, I'd tell them where they can shove their 10 page paper. There are many other university's to go to.

70 posted on 02/12/2009 1:04:28 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I stand corrected...;-)


71 posted on 02/12/2009 1:06:59 PM PST by RedMonqey (Arm yourself if you must. For your enemies surely will.)
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To: Carling
Here it is:

Hello, I am Patrick Moser. I am a part time student of the CSSA program and work full time at Western Oregon University as the Assistant Director, Facilities and Operations in the department of University Residences.

I grew up in Gresham, Oregon and after I graduated from high school I moved to Monmouth to get my teaching degree. In college, my plans changed when I discovered the field of Student Affairs. I was lucky enough to serve as a Resident Assistant, a Hall Director and get involved in student government as an undergraduate. I graduated with a degree in Speech Communication and was ready to work in residence life.

My career started at WOU in 1996 when I was hired as an Area Coordinator, a position I held for three years. I started a master’s degree program at Portland State University while working full time. The commute to Portland and the masters program was not all that I was hoping it to be, so I decided to take a new direction and that has led me to Oregon State University and the CSSA program.

During my ten years in University Residences at WOU, I have had the pleasure of advising and instructing students. This truly is my passion! I had the opportunity to advise the Residence Hall Association at WOU for six years and it is probably one of the most rewarding times in my career to this point. Working with students in leadership positions and helping facilitate their growth through their leadership experiences is at the heart of the Student Affairs profession.

Outside of my work, I am deeply involved in the community of Monmouth. I was on the Monmouth City Council for five and half years. I believe civic service and giving back to the community is a vital part of being a member of a community and I try role model that value to the students I work with on campus.

I enjoy spending time with friends, traveling, watching and participating in sports, golf, tennis and fishing.

I look forward to the challenges of being a half time student and look forward to working with and learning from as many colleagues in the CSSA program as possible.

Patrick Moser

72 posted on 02/12/2009 1:16:27 PM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: FreedomPoster

On further review of the afore post and links thereof, I believe this fellow has an excellent chance to sue the pants, shirts socks etc. off the administration, student board, evertvyone(including the police)

Since when does “policy” of any college supercede state law and Constituation?

Would a “policy” of “no negroes” supercede the civil rights of Blacks/?

Hell no to both!!!


73 posted on 02/12/2009 1:19:17 PM PST by RedMonqey (Arm yourself if you must. For your enemies surely will.)
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To: from occupied ga
I noticed that most of the outrage in the rticle was because the Maxwell was a marine. Doesn’t everyone get equal billing?

Sure they do. Join the Marines and you'll have equal billing with us. (-:

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." - Ronald Reagan

74 posted on 02/12/2009 1:21:10 PM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: only1percent

I too sent a note to Mosrep or whatever the guy’s name is.

If Maxwell violated a clearly stated university policy (i.e. no weapons on campus) and they want to suspend him, fine. But dispense with the paper and psych eval nonsense. That’s just evil vindictiveness in my book.

Maxwell should write a paper that says “Suck my @ss you commie bastards” on ten pages.


75 posted on 02/12/2009 1:44:24 PM PST by jjm2111
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To: goodnesswins

I see a lawsuit the will cost the state a few hundred thousand dollars.


76 posted on 02/12/2009 1:46:01 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: RaceBannon
The School can kick him out based on their rules, it is not public property, it is private.

Schools are PUBLIC property owned by the state. Apparently the law prohibits public universities from infringing on a person's 2A rights.

77 posted on 02/12/2009 1:49:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: goodnesswins

New Jersey is about as bad as it gets true. But I expected more of Oregon.


78 posted on 02/12/2009 2:03:53 PM PST by ZULU ( God, guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: RaceBannon

Western Oregon is a PUBLIC university. My sweetie & I almost went to this meeting until we heard they were closing it to the public. Sweetie also did some research & found that the legislature did pass a bill that allowed ‘schools’ to prohibit weapons. But if the DA decided there was no crime, then he understands it only to apply to K-12 - not public universities.


79 posted on 02/12/2009 2:23:56 PM PST by Twotone
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To: RaceBannon
The School can kick him out based on their rules, it is not public property, it is private.

Actually, WOU is a public institution supported by the taxpayers of the State of Oregon.

http://www.wou.edu/core_features/about_wou

Name Office Phone Department Position Location
Moser, Patrick  (503)838-8302  University Residences  Assistant Director of Leadership and Operations/Unranked  VAL 127 
Email: moserp@wou.edu Home page: http://www.wou.edu/~moserp

80 posted on 02/12/2009 2:25:42 PM PST by XR7
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