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To: mad_as_he$$

How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?


11 posted on 02/15/2009 7:43:20 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?

***None. But didn’t Hussein want to create some kind of “civilian” force? They’re the ones even our military should fear.


17 posted on 02/15/2009 7:48:27 AM PST by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: Texas Fossil
As high as 50% according to some studies. It is folly to think it will not happen. BTW there is very good evidence that the 0 security forces will be equipped and trained by contractors. Contractors will use Russian and other mercs who have no compunction about shooting Americans. One of the reasons to ramp the war in Afcrapistan is to keep the military occupied and out of country.

Remember it took 130,000 troops to suppress Iraq, a country the size of Texas ans with the population of Kalifornia.

19 posted on 02/15/2009 7:49:27 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Chevron 7 will not engage!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Considering how America-hating some ‘rats are, I’m sure some of them have joined for the chance to shoot up some Reds(staters).


20 posted on 02/15/2009 7:50:22 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Texas Fossil

It would depend. I dont think the National Guard would. Most USMC units wouldnt.
If Obama allows people from other countries to join, then that would be where the biggest problem would be. Or he could bring in NATO or UN troops to “secure” the Nuclear weapons or some other excuse.
UN and NATO would face the largest standing army, since there area lotsa of guns here, and people who are just looking for a reason to use them.


25 posted on 02/15/2009 8:04:11 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Freedom- 07-04-1776-11-06-2008. RIP)
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To: Texas Fossil

How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?””

A questin I have pondered. Who would follow the orders of Hussein Obama to kill their fellow countrymen?? Time will tell—option 2 that has occurred based on the historical record, is to turn on obama and exercise the right of citizens to dispose of corrupt, tyrannical government—a duty and a right of every citizen. I would much prefer a military coup led by honorable men in uniform than having to follow a fool such as the current reigning Hussein. He is stealing our children’s future with this so-called stimulus con—this is tyranny.


42 posted on 02/15/2009 8:36:10 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: Texas Fossil

The chosen one will simply call in the UN, they won’t mind at all.


51 posted on 02/15/2009 8:47:25 AM PST by sunny48
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To: Texas Fossil

“How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?”

Think blue helmet UN troops and ask that question again.


53 posted on 02/15/2009 8:52:05 AM PST by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Given the recent reports of accepting aliens directly into the military as a “route to citizenship”

And given the largest number of these aliens come form places where the military is the enforcement arm of the National or Providence gov’t

You may draw your own nightmares.

Food fr thought
http://www.frfrogspad.com/disastr.htm

Another odd site, if you worry about TEOWTWAWKIT (or something ike that)
http://www.survivalblog.com/index.html

How bad CAN it get?
IT has happened elsewhere, and in your lifetime
http://englishrussia.com/?p=276
Superpowers are not forever.....


54 posted on 02/15/2009 8:53:33 AM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: Texas Fossil

I think it’s in the Constitution that the military cannot be used against US citizens ... plus we’re not like some Third World country - our soldiers would not fire on civilians (Kent State not withstanding). Cops maybe .....


57 posted on 02/15/2009 8:54:35 AM PST by SkyDancer ("America July 4, 1776 - February 13, 2009 ")
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To: Texas Fossil

Hard to say http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2186158/posts


72 posted on 02/15/2009 9:14:12 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?

Ever hear of the "Bonus Army"?...

The Bonus Army,, some 15,000 to 20,000 World War I veterans from across the country, marched on the Capitol in June 1932 to request early payment of cash bonuses due to them in 1945. The Great Depression had destroyed the economy, leaving many veterans jobless.

Veteran Army Signal Corps photographer Theodor Horydczak, of Washington, D.C., photographed their camp site on the Mall. Six futile weeks of lobbying Congress raised government fears of riots, and on July 28, cavalry, infantry, tank troops and a mounted machine gun squadron commanded by General Douglas MacArthur and Major Dwight Eisenhower dispersed veterans and their families with bayonets and tear gas. Public opinion denounced President Herbert Hoover for the resulting bloodshed and helped force him from office.

Or, how about the New York Draft Riots in 1863?...


89 posted on 02/15/2009 9:42:00 AM PST by Gritty (Congress' new operating procedure is business as usual with three extra zeros on the end-Mark Steyn)
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To: Texas Fossil

You know, I had pondered the same thing. One of our Trooper friends was here a few weeks ago and it got me to thinking on this subject. I know that the people I know in military are OK of course,and we have friends and family in the state police and city police within our state. I have concluded that none of them would carry out unconstitutional orders against We The People. It is the Black Liberation Police Force Obama wants, and has evidently gotten ONE BILLION dollars in Porkulus for, that concerns me. They hate whitey. They will delight in taking us out.


94 posted on 02/15/2009 9:48:41 AM PST by TheConservativeParty (Democrats are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.)
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Not many. But if they are trained to do so, it could happen.So far they have not been so trained.

Specialists have though.

109 posted on 02/15/2009 10:22:44 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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I asked, “well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” and the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.

And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”

Twenty-five million people.

I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.

And they were dead serious.

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/276377.php


119 posted on 02/15/2009 11:33:49 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?

The people coming after them will be Special Ops in Obama's new Domestic Security Force, under Homeland Security. The one that he said "..should have all the power as our militay".

They will be the most radical the LEFT has to offer.

They will pull the trigger.

146 posted on 02/15/2009 2:15:55 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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This is the reason that Obama wants to dismantle the US military.


153 posted on 02/15/2009 3:42:51 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Texas Fossil; LucyT
How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?

Remember the Bonus March. WWI vets did a peaceful march on DC to ask for some of their veterans benefits and the calvery and gas was used against them. Soldiers follow orders. Tiena-men Square the soldiers were unknowingly doped up making it possible for them to slaughter tens of thousands of their own. But, I hope that there are soldiers capable of going against their commander in chief. However I agree with the post that UN troops will be used against us. Take note of the droves of illegal chinese and others entering our country
159 posted on 02/15/2009 4:06:19 PM PST by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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Depends on the circumstances.

As far as crowd control, it’s certainly possible. I mean if a bunch of people with torches and pitchforks were headed towards the state capitol, there WOULD be some shooting.

I don’t think the military could be persuaded to go door-to-door to say, confiscate weapons or gold or food.

But who knows?


187 posted on 02/15/2009 6:50:10 PM PST by djf
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If you are ordered to shoot or you will ‘be shot’ for disobeying orders from a superior officer, what would YOU do? Most people would follow the damned orders out of sheer self-preservation.

That’s the reality.


233 posted on 02/16/2009 5:06:56 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: Texas Fossil

“How many of the military do you think would actually fire on our own citizens?”

Depends entirely on the circumstances and what the military personnel are told by their higher ups. If the circumstances seem extreme enough and they’re convinced it’s necessary to secure stability or protect themselves or whatever, then probably a lot more than you think.


248 posted on 02/16/2009 1:29:56 PM PST by Firefigher NC
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