Posted on 02/15/2009 11:13:46 PM PST by SvenMagnussen
Legalese is above my pay grade!
They’re warming up for the first batter.
I was not aware that the two hospitals in Hawaii had been subpoenaed for birth records, and that Obama had refused to sign consent forms.
No Republican could ever get away with that.
As desperately as I’d love to get the usurper out of office, this case (judging only by this pleading) looks poorly supported, much like Berg and others, and I’m not even a lawyer.
I just don’t think there’s gonna be any progress made in these cases when they use things like Wikipedia and rumors (even if they’re probably true!) as key bases of argument.
Which case is it in which they’re actually conducting what looks like legitimate DISCOVERY by issuing subpoenas for his college records, scheduling depositions for college admins, etc.? Is it this same case? That’s the kind of stuff that’s far more likely to get legal legs IMVHO.
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Additionally, when Mr. Berg served subpoenas on the hospitals mentioned above, OBAMA refused to sign a consent form that would allow the hospitals to release any of his information. Instead, OBAMA has hired three law firms to defend himself, and has challenged the action by Mr. Berg on a technicality, claiming that an ordinary citizen does not have standing to bring the suit.
.... and when I joined the military, they required me to submit my birth certificate.... When I applied for law enforcement, they wanted a security background check.... Why can Obama get away with not proving that he is eligible to serve as President???? Association with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers???? And they call me a bigot for voting for McCain!
It’s a response to Obama’s move to dismiss the case. Keye’s attorney mentions a history of the California Secretary of State gathering disqualifying information on some Presidential candidates and disqualifying them from the ballot.
Obama wants this case to go away because he has won the election.
Keye’s wants the Court to write a mandate that all candidates for the Office of the President will be vetted with information available to the Secretary of State. Obama’s HI BC is not available to the Calif. SoS, but Obama’s California school records are. Obama’s academic information could be a path to vet the candidate now and in the future.
I posted a WSJ Blog based ona short story where they dismiss all of this saying teh courts and judges always dismiss it based on standing and harm.
Article
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123440666520775795.html#
Blog (freep the blog with a comment - no sign up required can use anon as name)
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/02/12/standing-in-the-way-of-the-constitution/#comment-397649
I am starting to think Gary Kreep’s case with Allan Keyes may be one of the strongest cases and the one Obama is worried about the most.
Pointing out the obvious, Keyes was injured because he ran against Obama and it sure looks like he has standing.
It also appears that there are only two possible hospitals in Honolulu, HI he could have been born in. The only possibility would be a midwife or something which is doubtful. If those hospitals have no records he is toast.
The Keyes case may decide whether we will have country. The great things is Dr. Keyes is one of the most passionate pro-Constitution Republicans or Americans you will find.
From what I gather, Obama’s school records are NOT available to the State of CA. Occidental College has received a reply from Obama’s attorneys that the college cannot release ANY of his records accompanied with a request to dismiss the case and issue a “fine” to the plaintiffs. This is outrageous ! Problem is EVERY judge in the US has complied with all of these motions to dismiss which indicates an unprecedented “nationwide judicial conspiracy” to dismiss any case against the messiah. It’s absolutely unfathomable !
Absolutely! God bless him.
When will the birthers learn that their lawsuits have no merit?
Talk about self-deulsion. How sad.
I really hope you haven't donated any money to these clowns.
How did a nasty little liberal skunk like you get in here?
Of course not. There are these things called privacy laws.
On what grounds should a court compell Obama to show his college records? How on Earth can they possibly be relevant to his eligibility for the presidency?
And no, they are not necessary to determine whether he was ever an Indonesian citizen. It is impossible under both US and Indonesian law for him to have ever acquired indonesian citizenship.
with a request to dismiss the case and issue a “fine” to the plaintiffs.
It is entirely appropriate to fine plaintiffs who waste the court's (and respondant's) time and money by filing frivolous motions and complaints.
Problem is EVERY judge in the US has complied with all of these motions to dismiss which indicates an unprecedented “nationwide judicial conspiracy”
So every judge in the country is in on it, huh. LOL.
Ask yourself this: is it more plausible that you are right and the entire judiciary is somehow conspiring to hide the truth? Or is it more plausible that the judges are right and these cases are all meritless?
If you answered the first, you might want to go and try on some tinfoil hats.
Opposing tinfoil hat conspiracy theories with reason does not make me a liberal.
I thought your little group go today off. If it is self delusion why do you all both posting. LOL! Suggest you read Justice Scalia and Kennedy’s writings.
Keyes has harm and standing. This one is going to SCOTUS.
As soon as the Deniers learn Keyes has standing and damages. LOL! Enjoy.
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