Skip to comments.ELCA ready to issue stance on gay ordination
Posted on 02/16/2009 4:14:13 AM PST by Zender500
The battle lines are about to be drawn for this summer's confrontation over the ordination of gay people by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA).
With the matter scheduled for a vote at the biannual national convention in Minneapolis in August, church leaders will release a position paper Thursday that is expected to indicate their stance on the issue.
This is the second public step in a process that began in 2001 when the ELCA Churchwide Assembly commissioned a social statement on human sexuality.
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There may be a few little old ladies at white clapboard churches in rural Iowa who will be stunned when they meet their first new gay pastor, but that will be about the extent of any shock or surprise.
Exactly how do you ordain homosexuals in a Christian Church?
If you do, why stop there? Why not people that like to commit murderers? Or how about arsonists?
Yes a person that has sinned by homsexual activity can repent become a Christian and then surely could become ordained. But these people are still sinning, They have not stopped and in fact will propogate their sin from the pulpit. How is this Christian?
These Church’s involved in these things are self destructive and seem to not even be aware......
That high pitched whine you hear? That’s Luther spinning in his grave.
that is the problem.
The “little or ladies” who don’t have a problem with thier fancy men as long as they do a good job on their hair.
Those little old ladies have failed their grandchildren.
Having moved to Chicago and looking for a church I went to a beautiful old Episcopal church in Chicago several times and the only attendees were 15 very old women and 1 old man. (At one time I bet the congregation was in the 100’s.) The 30’ish very gay (limp-wristed)priest preached one sermon each Sunday and every Sunday - we need to accept everyone - however they are. The subliminal message was you must accept gays no matter what you think of their behavior.
So the big ELCA churches will all die like this one in Chicago but the gays will be openly accepted by the liberals and the liberal-guilt of the people who run the ELCA assuaged. Sad but they know they will ruin the church but they must press on with implementing the gay agenda even though they kill the church. Truly this is satanic.
May Christ, the Son of the living God, be manifest in you!
This thread deals with the ELCA, not a Christian church.
I mean, next, a "stance" on ordaining practicing rapists? Molestors? Murderers? Thieves? Buddhists? Atheists?
Actually is is wrong in the eyes of God to considered same sex marriages. Read in Romans chapter in the holy bible in the new test. It will show you why.
The homosexual agenda is the ELCA’s own indulgence.
Any suggestions about a good alternative denomination?
Strange as a reform movement within a reform movement may sound, there is a pan-Lutheran (Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod and Evangelical Lutheran Church in America) oratory of biblically conservative, liturgically steeped clergy that has gathered for mutual support and to resist the tide of modernity.
I encourage you to check out the website of the Society of the Holy Trinity http://www.societyholytrinity.org Read the page on "The Rule" http://www.societyholytrinity.org/rule.htm, paying particular attention to the section entitled "Parish Practices".Members of the Society are deeply committed to the weekly Eucharist, Private Confession and Absolution, and the public recitation of the Daily Office
Then look at the membership directory http://www.societyholytrinity.org/stswebdirectory.htm to see if there are any STS members serving a congregation within a reasonable driving distance. Although not every parish is practicing every aspect of the Rule at this time, most subscriber clergy are committed to working toward those goals and have a deliberate plan to achieve them incrementally. These clergy would be delighted to receive visitors and/or new members who share those commitments.
Like you, they are somewhat embattled within their own denominations. They would welcome your support and you would benefit from their ministry.