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Join the Army, Be a US Citizen in 6 Months
Times of India ^ | 16 Feb 2009, 0403 hrs IST | Chidanand Rajghatta

Posted on 02/16/2009 8:20:25 AM PST by lewisglad

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To: The Pack Knight
If they’re willing to sacrifice more than the vast majority of Americans do for their new country, then I have no problem with making them citizens.

Today's immigrants aren't coming here to be Americans. They stubbornly insist on maintaining their old national identity and culture. Their loyalty lies where they came from and makes them a security risk.

21 posted on 02/16/2009 8:37:28 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: Oldpuppymax

22 posted on 02/16/2009 8:39:34 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: Spirochete

Someone who came by means of volunteering for the Army in wartime are likely to be far more loyal and Americanized than the average immigrant.

As well, if I was writing the law, I would require that they renounce their former citizenship upon enlistment.


23 posted on 02/16/2009 8:41:29 AM PST by furquhart (Well, at least we might get the Cold War back...)
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To: dfwgator
Why don't they just create the “American Foreign Legion”.

What a great idea. Have a large armed force willing to do anything the president says regardless of constitutionality. Want to send in the military to stop domestic protests, send in the foreign legion. They won't hesitate to shoot US citizens in the US.

24 posted on 02/16/2009 8:46:29 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (If the feds can't competently handle the DTV transition, why should we trust them with health care?)
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To: lewisglad

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, what a clever way to get foreigners into our military . . . more willing to deal with . . . troublesome civilians . . . when the time soonish comes.

I’d put a /sar if it was sar. . . . but it ain’t.


25 posted on 02/16/2009 8:48:52 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: lewisglad

Obama should create whole infantry divisions of foreigners. They wont hesitate to fire on American demonstrators when conservatives eventually take to the streets.


26 posted on 02/16/2009 8:50:58 AM PST by DogBarkTree (Sometimes you have to let it go in order to get a Grip.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
You forget what the drill sergeants do for a living.

Destroy any semblence of individuality, rebuild a confidence and teamwork ethic and pride second to none.

27 posted on 02/16/2009 8:53:16 AM PST by Pistolshot ("Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect " - ClearCase_guy)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; dfwgator; lewisglad

IIRC it used to take 10 years in the Foreign Legion to achieve French citizenship. That seemed too long, but 6 months seems like it might be too rapid.


28 posted on 02/16/2009 8:59:01 AM PST by wideminded
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To: lewisglad

We could certainly form several Pancho Villa brigades quite easily.


29 posted on 02/16/2009 9:01:08 AM PST by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: OneWingedShark
You mean the American Legion of Foreigners (ALF), right?

Guess we'll have to breed a lot of cats to feed them. ;)

30 posted on 02/16/2009 9:02:13 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Spirochete

Yeah, but don’t you think military service might help clear that concern up a little?


31 posted on 02/16/2009 9:02:17 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Yes, that’s true, especially within certain professions. many who come from India have engineering and medical degrees the average U.S. military enlistee does not. The military is concentrating on acquiring those in medical professions and linguists, particularly South Asian languages like Urdu and Pashtun. The Hindi language, for instance, has many similarities to Urdu, except in written form.

I’m pretty sure there are very few such linguists amongst the average group of those enlisting into the Marines based upon my conversations with MARSOC (Special Operations Command, U. S. Marine Forces) personnel. MARSOC folks have actually asked me for names of young naturalized Americans who can speak at least five of the major dialects of Chinese.


32 posted on 02/16/2009 9:06:26 AM PST by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: lewisglad

Juan Valdez thinking to himself: “Let’s see...I can join the U.S. Army now, risk getting shot for a nation I hold no allegiance to and gain citizenship in 6 months while I serve out my enlistment or I can stand around on any U.S street corner without being bothered and automatically become a full fledged citizen and child of the welfare state via amnesty in half that time...


33 posted on 02/16/2009 9:07:18 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: lewisglad

Why is this appearing on the Times of India, but not elsewhere? Why no American papers?


34 posted on 02/16/2009 9:17:21 AM PST by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: lewisglad
Hmmmm. Outsource our military?

Remember what became of the Romans?

35 posted on 02/16/2009 9:19:09 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Military family member

Supposedly it was buried in the Sunday New York Times edition.


36 posted on 02/16/2009 9:21:09 AM PST by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

US military will open its doors to skilled immigrant guest workers (such as those who hold H-1B visas) who have lived in the US for a minimum of two years.

With the citizenship will they lose their H-1B visa, and their job?


37 posted on 02/16/2009 9:22:52 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: furquhart
Someone who came by means of volunteering for the Army in wartime are likely to be far more loyal and Americanized than the average immigrant.

What about middle-eastern immigrants? Bosnian or Albanian immigrants? What about immigrants from Indonesia or Somalia?

38 posted on 02/16/2009 9:23:27 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: lewisglad

6 month seems like a very short time..

I think people are over reacting big time. These foreigners will be spread between hundreds of units.

This system worked incredibly well for Romans, Auxilia had Roman officers and ranks filled with non-citizens who after a 25 years would get full citizenship. Problems started when Rome started using units that were completely foreign and commanded by foreigners. When it worked typical legion would have same numbers of Auxilia attached to it as the numbers of it’s main body of heavy infantry. You would have slingers and archers, cavalry (which in general would be higher quality then native Roman cavalry), all kinds of lighter infantry used to protect flanks and such.

Brits have some great examples of similar system with Ghurka, British officers serving alongside native troops. The native qualities combined with British discipline etc very effective.


39 posted on 02/16/2009 9:26:51 AM PST by dimk
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To: lewisglad

> The program is particularly germane to Indian guest workers who constitute the largest segment of skilled foreign workers in the US, and although Spanish-speaking Latinos constitute the largest group of immigrants, they are largely unskilled.

Well, at least they were honest about the Latinos. I still remember my friends who are Punjabi and Hindi and they had engineering degrees from India but could only drive taxis here. One of them started a laser company that now has a grant from the DOD.


40 posted on 02/16/2009 9:27:48 AM PST by max americana
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