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Signing Stimulus Bill, Obama Does Not Rule Out Another
New York Times ^ | February 17, 2009 | Sheryl Gay Stolberg

Posted on 02/17/2009 2:29:13 PM PST by reaganaut1

DENVER — President Obama has not ruled out a second stimulus package, his press secretary, Robert Gibbs, said on Tuesday, just before Mr. Obama signed his $787 billion recovery package into law with a statement that it would “set our economy on a firmer foundation.”

The president said he would not pretend “that today marks the end of our economic problems.”

“Nor does it constitute all of what we have to do to turn our economy around,” Mr. Obama said at the signing ceremony in the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. “But today does mark the beginning of the end, the beginning of what we need to do to create jobs for Americans scrambling in the way of playoffs.”

Mr. Gibbs, speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One on the way to Denver, said, “I think the president is going to do what’s necessary to grow this economy.” While “there are no particular plans at this point for a second stimulus package,” he added, “I wouldn’t foreclose it.”

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While the bill has been criticized by conservatives as bloated with pork-barrel spending, it has also been criticized by the left as too tepid and not bold enough to jumpstart the economy. Mr. Gibbs’s remarks on the plane seemed to echo that concern.

In describing the package, the press secretary called it “a strong start towards economic viability” and “the beginning of getting our economy back on track.”

While he was still president-elect, Mr. Obama originally envisioned spending somewhere between $675 billion and $775 billion on the recovery package, and the final number comes close to that. But the bill approved by Congress included $70 billion in tax cuts, which some economists believe will not create as many new jobs as $70 billion in spending would.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2evil4words; bho44; bhobillsigning; bhostimulus; evil; powergrab; stimulus; tankingonpurpose
Yes, that's the problem, the $800 billion bill had $70 billion of tax cuts. Obama won't make that mistake in future "stimulus" bills.

What has made America special is quickly being destroyed.

1 posted on 02/17/2009 2:29:13 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Have to get that pesky DOW down to single digits. Lot of work to do!


2 posted on 02/17/2009 2:30:43 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: Darkwolf377

Well the media meme has certainly been that the reason the markets are tanking is because the porkulus is not big enough!!


3 posted on 02/17/2009 2:31:36 PM PST by Boiling Pots (Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious)
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To: reaganaut1

Let’s paaahh Tay like it’s 1929! - Paul Shanklin


4 posted on 02/17/2009 2:34:31 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have You Punched A Democrat Today? - Do it for the children.)
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To: Boiling Pots

Incredible. I wondered how they were going to explain it.


5 posted on 02/17/2009 2:35:04 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
... wondered how they were going to explain it.

..who's going to ask them to?..the MSM?...they don't respond to any warnings now...no common sense.....it's full agenda driven

6 posted on 02/17/2009 2:38:27 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: reaganaut1

A Market-Ticker posting:
http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=81089&page=6

“A simple leverage calculation:
James turk says the US government owes 110 trillion.
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsi....

If true, that is a debt of $360,000 per person in the USA. At 5%, that is $18,000 of interest / year / person. “Honey! Put the kids to work!”

2008 US tax receipts ~2.5 trillion. And in the past, supposedly, tax income dropped about 15% per year in challenging times. So the 2.5 might become 1.5 trillion in two years if conditions keep deteriorating.
http://www.breakthematrix.com/node/33022

US leverage now = 110 / 1.8 = 37 times!! And in 2 years, US leverage = 112 / 1.8 = 60 times.

Do you know anyone who can handle 50 times leverage? How about 50 times leverage in illiquid environments? And the government is in charge :-)

That is like buying $100,000 of stock with $2,000. If a 50 dollar stock goes down $1 (2%) you get a margin call. Simple noise will produce a margin call.”


7 posted on 02/17/2009 2:44:25 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: Doogle

So, then, Porkulus is simply a down payment on the total amount they plan on spending??????


8 posted on 02/17/2009 2:45:10 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
precisely
9 posted on 02/17/2009 2:46:18 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Dilbert San Diego
a libtard program is always illconcieved to begin with...after years of failure, the remedy has always been, it needs more money.
10 posted on 02/17/2009 2:49:15 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: reaganaut1

Time to move another wad of cash out of the U.S.


11 posted on 02/17/2009 2:50:35 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you are talking about Zimbabwe money.)
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To: combat_boots

Link for Turk broke. My apologies.

James Turk: “$53 TRILLION AND GROWING”

http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/turk/2008/0109.html


12 posted on 02/17/2009 2:50:37 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: livius
I wondered how they were going to explain it.

Try this: "After eight years of failed policies_________"

Insert appropriate excuse in the blank.

13 posted on 02/17/2009 2:53:36 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: reaganaut1

Just as Rush predicted yesterday.


14 posted on 02/17/2009 2:58:14 PM PST by Ikemeister
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To: Uncle Miltie
Time to move another wad of cash out of the U.S.

BINGO!

If they started with a new TARP, the peasants might come to DC with pitchforks. But the Obama Swindle-Us contains doggy treats for the masses, to pacify them while he gives a new TARP to foreign "investors."


15 posted on 02/17/2009 3:28:19 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: tbpiper; Doogle

That’s true. And nobody is even looking for rational explanations of anything anymore.

Now that we have a president who walks around with his eyes closed, his head up in the air, and a vague smile on his face like someone getting messages from the Oiuja board of his mind, I guess reason really doesn’t matter much anyway.


16 posted on 02/17/2009 5:06:30 PM PST by livius
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