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Obama to unveil $75B mortgage relief plan (Why didnt I buy a bigger house??)
MSNBC ^ | 2/18/09 | AP

Posted on 02/18/2009 9:22:44 AM PST by sickoflibs

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To: Lorianne; Darkwolf377; NavyCanDo; Numbers Guy
RE “ And for those who could see a bubble forming and didn’t buy during the frenzy: Guess what? You’re a certified IDIOT.

Very well put by you!

All this is deciding whether to bury the dead and grieve them (the loans) or prop up the dead bodies and make believe they are still alive, till the smell gets to bad. Either is bad, one resolves it in present. One punishes the innocent and rewards the guilty far more than the other(democrats believe we are all victims and the rich got out on time, and the poor got stuck) .

Only one sane voice on this, Schiff the main cause of problem is government sponsored boom-bubble that sucks people (all over world) in , that politicians tell us is real. That is a side effect of government managed economic policy, zero or negative interest rates combined with insane lending policies to promote home ownership AND supposed economic growth. (BTW :During housing boom Democrats moved out to the suburbs and took over elections in maryland.)

81 posted on 02/18/2009 10:45:12 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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To: antivenom
Bail out = re-distribution

Yes, indeed. My anger knows no bounds today.

82 posted on 02/18/2009 10:45:54 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: jennyjenny

Now that song is stuck in my head! LOL


83 posted on 02/18/2009 10:47:39 AM PST by SouthTexas (oops there goes another trillion bucks...)
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To: mplsconservative

TODAY...you just got started today...I have been fricking mindless with anger for 4 weeks!

AAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!!!

Black History month will be a BLACK MONTH in the making.

HEARD of Black Friday...we are to get BLACK FEBRUARY!!!!!!!


84 posted on 02/18/2009 10:48:58 AM PST by antivenom (The messiah turning worthless mortgages into redeemable assets (like water into wine)...)
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To: csmusaret

No but Nancy might provide for you.

My description of the limitations were to dispell its supposed broad impact, not an endorsement of it as reasonable.


85 posted on 02/18/2009 10:49:59 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Munz

To maximize your benefit, stop paying your mortgage AND quit your job. Then your behavior will be rewarded by 0bama’s plan.


86 posted on 02/18/2009 10:51:41 AM PST by Gabrial ("Change" = Highway Robbery)
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To: Gondring

Yes. It doesn’t pay to be honest or responsible.

Yeah let’s look at:

Dashele
Geitner
Madoff
the new guy with “Stanford Financial”
Buress

to name the first few that come to mind


87 posted on 02/18/2009 10:52:12 AM PST by antivenom (The messiah turning worthless mortgages into redeemable assets (like water into wine)...)
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To: KC Burke

And I wasn’t picking on you personally. I have a real problem though with people who quit making their house payments just because the house has lost value.


88 posted on 02/18/2009 10:53:28 AM PST by csmusaret (You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
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To: TroutFishingInAmerica

As long as the “homeowner” being foreclosed on isn’t an absolute, unrepentant derelict, the mortgage holders could just as well take back ownership and allow the ex-homeowner to remain as a renter until an orderly sale can be arranged—even if a couple of years off. And if not them, then new renters could be brought in at whatever the going rate.

As is, this has become the most unfair of all possible solutions.


89 posted on 02/18/2009 10:54:04 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Lorianne
Foreclosed homes can be sold to people who have saved their money waiting for a time they could afford to buy a house!

Exactly! I drive a car that's 13 years old, live in a small, cheap rent-house, eat beans-n-rice, and save my money... ready and waiting for housing prices to drop back to reality so I can buy a home responsibly and without a foolish, massive, risky debt.

And what do I get instead? A bill from Big Gov ordering me to pay up and prop up housing prices!

(Keep pushing that boulder, Sisyphus!)
90 posted on 02/18/2009 10:54:13 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: SouthTexas

But I don’t go to school any more either. :(

Sorry, don’t understand your comment.


91 posted on 02/18/2009 10:54:37 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: Gabrial

Noooo nooo nooooo

IF you have equity in your home...NO help for you...they much rather want to SEIZE your asset (it has equity therefore value)...

HOWEVER if you have NO EQUITY in your worthless mortgaged piece of property the LENDER does NOT want it!

Why would the lender want a TOXIC asset...they much rather have you occupying the toxic asset and having the government bailing the equity less person out.


92 posted on 02/18/2009 10:55:14 AM PST by antivenom (The messiah turning worthless mortgages into redeemable assets (like water into wine)...)
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To: sickoflibs

AAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH! WHAT THE EF IS GOING ON?

EVERY DAY THEY WANT MORE $$$$$$$!!!!!

WHERE’S IT COMING FROM?????

/thanks, I needed that scream.


93 posted on 02/18/2009 10:56:47 AM PST by vidbizz
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To: antivenom

Oh no. The anger didn’t start just today. Believe me!

Whatever about Black history month. It’s the communism that has me steamed.


94 posted on 02/18/2009 10:56:48 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: Lorianne

Let me guess...Math was never your strong suit.


95 posted on 02/18/2009 11:02:29 AM PST by Boanarges
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To: Gondring

Join the club


96 posted on 02/18/2009 11:03:53 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: KC Burke; acoulterfan
KC Burke wrote:
The plan is only for Fannie/Freddie compliant loans, only loans under 415, only helps for the portion of the loan that is in excess of the house value, only serves as an incentive to the lender, not a requirement...etc, etc.
According to the info posted on the Whitehouse.gov website (See "Help For Homeowners" for text and discussion), the refinance assistance for people who are current on their payments is for Fannie/Freddie loans only.

But the assistance for "Borrowers Who Are at Risk of Foreclosure" includes forced interest rate reductions, and provisions that payments will be limited to 31% of the borrowers current income (no matter their income when they signed the mortgage contract, or any of the provisions of the contract). If I read it right, the lender must come down to current market rates for fixed rate loans. No ARM adjustments up any more. And if the 31% of income is still below the payment, then the feds (us taxpayers, that is) pay half of interest rate cuts below market, or the feds (us taxpayers, that is) pay half of principal writedowns. And the feds (us taxpayers, that is) kick in $1,000 toward principal each year if the borrower makes all payments on time, up to $5,000 over the first 5 years.

acoulterfan wrote:
This will include reducing PRINCIPALS!
For those at risk for foreclosure, principal write down is an option. The lenders will be required to get payments down below 31% of the borrower's current income (presumably their unemployment benefits if they are unemployed). They can do this by a combination of interest rate cuts and possibly principal write downs. The interest cut down to market rates for fixed rate mortgages come 100% out of the lender's profit. If the interest rates is cut below market rates, loss is split between the taxpayers and the lenders. And the taxpayers pick up half of any principal that is written off.
97 posted on 02/18/2009 11:03:58 AM PST by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: acoulterfan

Was being sarcastic with principle and principal. ;)


98 posted on 02/18/2009 11:04:37 AM PST by SouthTexas (oops there goes another trillion bucks...)
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To: Boanarges

Well, it is actually, but patience isn’t. I was in a hurry!

Big mistake by me!


99 posted on 02/18/2009 11:04:42 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Just on Rush - Each deadbeat will get $30,555 on average towards their mortgage.

He says he’s getting overwhelmed with all the info coming out. That’s an understatement.


100 posted on 02/18/2009 11:10:49 AM PST by mplsconservative
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