Posted on 02/19/2009 2:35:21 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
China calls on Russia to explain cargo ship sinking
59 mins ago
China called on Russia on Thursday to explain how a Chinese cargo ship sank in Russian waters after reports it was fired on by the Russian military.
Seven Chinese sailors were missing after the "New Star" sank on Saturday in stormy seas off Vladivostok and after a Russian warship shot at least 500 rounds into it, the official China Daily newspaper said, quoting a Chinese-language paper which in turned quoted a Russian newspaper.
The "New Star" was held at the Russian port of Nakhodka earlier this month, suspected of involvement in smuggling, before it left without permission last week, the China Daily said.
"China has already made representations to the Russian side," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu told a news conference.
"We hope they continue with the search and rescue operations for the missing sailors and clarify the reason (for the incident) as soon as possible."
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Ping!
500 rounds?
Damn!
whoopski
“China says three Chinese crew members were rescued and seven were missing.”
Missing/detained-to-be-tortured = both interchangable phrases in the Communist rulebook.
Cool. Maybe they can get off 1000 rounds on the next target.
This should do wonders for Chinese-Russian relations.
Well, it got a bunch of holes in it and a lot of water leaked in until the average density of the ship became too great. Then it sank.
DA! Dat is ticket!
Depends what those 500 rounds were fired from. A gattling gun that’s about two seconds.
Where about in Oregon ya from?
Yup, and the Russians typically fit their ships with lots and lots of auxiliary armament. Their Kirov-class battlecruisers (yes, I said battlecruisers) mount as auxiliaries 8 each AK-630 30mm gatling cannon (part of their CIWS equivalent) and the secondary armament (after the primary arm of missiles) is a twin mount 100 or 130mm dual purpose cannon capable of firing between 10 and 40 rounds per minute per gun all by itself with no loading crew. Their destroyers are even more gun-heavy - the Sovremenny class, their main surface combatants, have TWO twin mount 130mm DP cannon, and four of the AK-630 gatling cannon.
The Russians seem to love bolting guns onto their naval vessels for some reason.
Have at it, boys.
Those two coming top blow would be an answer to prayers (of a sort).
Impromptu live fire training exercise for the Russian navy.
The even better news is that all US subs in the area managed to move out of the way of the sinking ship.
Considering that the two had very quiet border wars involving at least two nuclear detonations and those wars only ended in the 90s... it wouldn’t take all that much.
“Considering that the two had very quiet border wars involving at least two nuclear detonations and those wars only ended in the 90s... it wouldn’t take all that much.”
I didn’t know about the Nuke detonations. What can I search on to find that?
The Russians were using the environmentally friendly VSR’s to attack the ship.
The VSR is very small round
I am from Michighanistan originally. Have a house in central Florida, live in Southern Oregon for the time being.
Search both here and on Google for the Sino-Soviet Border Wars or Clashes.
It’s mostly a lot of speculation as neither party is talking. They don’t seem to have had a nuclear exchange, and there’s no hard evidence other than some characteristic seismograph recordings here in the West (nuclear detonations make distinctive patterns on seismographs, the larger the more distinctive) and some few Soviet documents that survived the multiple purges.
See this thread for a little more info: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1690314/posts?
One detonation seems to have been a nuclear land mine or some such around 1969. The other likely event was in 1972 and wasn’t as distinctive - likely someone salvage-fusing a device to keep it from getting captured when the Chinese overran them.
How do the Chinese know there were 500 rounds involved in the sinking???
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