I know who Deb is. I have the same creds.
Yes, you do.
Now, I don't recall seeing Turbo Pig posting before (quite a jaunty handle, so I think I'd recall it) so I thought I'd put in a little historical perspective for Deb.
From your posts, Turbo Pig, I believe you'll have no problem handling yourself in these discussions.
I'll stand back now, and let you all have at it.
Play nice! Both sides have valid points to make here. **grin**