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National Guard scraps plans to invade rural town
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 20, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 02/21/2009 12:26:19 AM PST by Boucheau

DES MOINES, Iowa – Following publicized reports that the Army National Guard was planning a military training exercise on the streets of a rural Iowa town, the commanding officers have called off the mock "invasion."

The Guard had planned a four-day urban military operation in tiny Arcadia, Iowa, population 443, sending troops to take over the town and search door-to-door for a suspected weapons dealer.

The exercise was designed as a mock scenario to give soldiers the skills needed for deployment in an urban environment, and military officials stressed that only households that consented to be part of the drill would be searched.

"It will be important for us to gain the trust and confidence of the residents of Arcadia," Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company, told Carroll's Daily Times Herald. "We will need to identify individuals that are willing to assist us in training by allowing us to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in role-playing.

"We really want to get as much information out there as possible," Kots continued, "because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the people of Arcadia."

Military spokesman Lt. Col. Greg Hapgood, however, told WND that the operation has now been "scaled back" and no longer involves an "invasion" of Arcadia.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
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To: Brad's Gramma
"Ya know what’s creepier? When the news gets out....it’s cancelled...." Excellent point!
21 posted on 02/21/2009 1:06:43 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: Brad's Gramma

The news got out before the Monterey, California exercise in March of 1999, and the military carried out their exercise anyway. There were protests against it. If you think the cancellation is creepy, carrying on that 1999 exercise with protesters on site, was even creepier to me.


22 posted on 02/21/2009 1:07:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Yes, that’s true.


23 posted on 02/21/2009 1:07:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: The Duke

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967606/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967651/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967651/posts

My...half the forum is turning into Carty Finkbeiner...

And these where marines...not weekend warriors...

Really after you read a couple of these threads you see how silly this is NOW...just becuase zero is in office?

The US military may be the last friend the american citizen has on the face of god’s earth...dont piss on their leg just yet.


24 posted on 02/21/2009 1:09:06 AM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: DoughtyOne

Arcadia, Iowa???
~~~
I thought it was Arcadia,Louisiana!!! (spits on the ground).

Where Bonnie and Clyde got their asses shot all to pieces!

( I met one of them guys when I was lil’ feller),,,

I bet the got some phone calls...;0)


25 posted on 02/21/2009 1:11:08 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Boucheau

Your thoughts echo mine on the topic. The one caviot I might make, would be that they are only entering the homes of people who have given permission. Let me ask you something, would you feel comfortable with members of our military walking through your home with full battle dress on, and their weapons in hand? I respect the hell out of these guys, but I wouldn’t allow anyone at all to enter my home with a weapon, short of the police or a swat team and I didn’t have any choice.


26 posted on 02/21/2009 1:12:25 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: Boucheau
Same story, two sources for reference...
Army Sec.: Troops Ready for Iraq

NucNews - October 31, 2002
Army Sec.: Troops Ready for Iraq
White noted the difference in training for such warfare today compared to a decade ago, saying the Department of Defense (news - web sites) now has excellent facilities for training troops in urban fighting on a number of bases - not just at its major training centers.

So if there were so many facilities way back in 2002 you have to wonder why local towns are being used.

27 posted on 02/21/2009 1:14:51 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I thought it was Louisiana also.

BTW, Bonnie and Clyde had a home in Joplin, Missouri, and we used to drive by it once in a while. Okay, it’s slow in Joplin at times, what can I say. ;-)

We also drove by the building in Coffeeville, Kansas where the Dalton Gang got theirs a couple of times. I remember seeing the bullet holes in the walls in the alley.


28 posted on 02/21/2009 1:15:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: Boucheau
"improve the public's understanding of military operations."

if this was planned against homes without fore-allow... oh my!

29 posted on 02/21/2009 1:19:36 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: Crim

“...dont piss on their leg just yet.”

Any American who doesn’t look upon the United States Military and its power somberly doesn’t have a good grip on the fragility of freedom.

Let me say again: I’m a patriot and a descended from quite of few fighting men—two of whom died in WWII.

I was raised by my Grandparents and tend to be old-fashioned in my root beliefs.

The power of US Military IS NOTHING TO TAKE LIGHTLY, FRiend.

The parallels and similarities to militarized rule, the softening up of citizen and soldier, the precedent are too, too dangerous.

They have no business “training” in American cities and towns.

This is a skill they DO NOT NEED because THEY WILL NEVER ATTACK AN AMERICAN TOWN, RIGHT?

Again: if they need a town they can build a prop-town.

This is serious, serious stuff, folks.


30 posted on 02/21/2009 1:20:18 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: Boucheau
Weapons dealer"????? That fits quite neatly with a search for a gun owner/armed citizenry, does it not?

Exactly... and what will the NWO consider an "weapons's dealer"??

Anyone possessing more than one weapon.

Just watch, next you will be hearing that if you own more than one your'e some kind of 'dealer'.

31 posted on 02/21/2009 1:23:23 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Boucheau
"...sending troops to take over the town and search door-to-door for a suspected weapons dealer."

The officers in charge of that exercise are knuckleheads, probably with the mental squishiness of Al Gore. I did training exercises in a small US town a few times, but we trained to secure the residents and infrastructure. We didn't practice aggression against them. The residents enjoyed watching us and regarded us as friendlies, and that was during the Clinton years.

If the story isn't exaggerated or omitting facts (WND, you know), the people in charge of that birdbrained idea are worse than knuckleheads.

From the UCMJ:

"894. ARTICLE 94. MUTINY OR SEDITION

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who--
[...]
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;...
"

And there's pertinent law from our Constitution and US Code.


32 posted on 02/21/2009 1:23:51 AM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: scott7278

Watch the movie “The Enemy Within” sometime.


33 posted on 02/21/2009 1:25:24 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: DoughtyOne

“Let me ask you something, would you feel comfortable with members of our military walking through your home with full battle dress on, and their weapons in hand?”

If you knew me personally you wouldn’t bother asking that question.

They had better be there searching for the Chinese soldiers they winged while defending our town.


34 posted on 02/21/2009 1:25:51 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: Boucheau

I hear ya.


35 posted on 02/21/2009 1:29:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: DoughtyOne

Bump for... later...


36 posted on 02/21/2009 1:32:39 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Boucheau
"The exercise was designed as a mock scenario to give soldiers the skills needed for deployment in an urban environment,..."

...must be MPs or some other kind of rear echelon outfit, as the exercise described is police work--not soldier work.


37 posted on 02/21/2009 1:32:55 AM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: DoughtyOne
“I don’t want them displaying their comfort at carrying out military activity inside our nation”

The problem IS that they are “weekend warriors”
not regular army or marines. I fear too many of our Ntl Guard troops have been watch the very BAD example of the police officers dressed as ninja’s breaking down doors, hog tieing women children and old ladies, killing citizens pets,.. and more with manufactured warrants.

Oh and for you who think I am making this up type citizen invasions in the search. Just a few weeks ago one of the think tanks had a map with the interactive invasion spots in the U.S.

A large number.... maybe half had the citizen being killed and no evidence found. This has gotten out of control.

Anyway, I think the story of the invasion of Arcadia was a feeler put out by the government to gage citizens awareness. But did anyone see the one young guardsman who was practically salivating talking about what they were going to do.

There was a happy gleam in his eye, and spring in his voice. Maybe I was tired but it was sickening.

Oh, and I have a kid in the regular military currently and my wife has a cousin in the NYPD. So don't play your games and making stupid accusations. Particularly if you have a “member since date” of less than 6 months.

Too tired, don't need the hassle.

38 posted on 02/21/2009 1:33:08 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: philman_36

I remember that one.


39 posted on 02/21/2009 1:36:59 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Boucheau

I presume those questions are rhetorical, right?


40 posted on 02/21/2009 1:39:50 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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