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Man Struck In Accidental Shooting At Gun Show (MN)
WCCO.com ^ | 2/21/09 | John Lauritsen

Posted on 02/21/2009 5:17:22 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

A Minnesota man is okay after being hit by bullet fragments after a security guard's gun accidentally discharged.

The shooting has been ruled an accident, but it did involve an off-duty Minneapolis police officer. He was working as a security guard at the gun show, when police say his gun holster got caught and his gun went off.

The bullet from his gun ricocheted off the floor and hit a retired St. Paul officer in the leg. Police say the retired officer was not working at the event and was there as a spectator. He was treated on the scene for minor injuries and will be okay.

"Something like this, it's purely an accident. We've got the -- [we're] checking the holster to see if there's any malfunctions, checking the gun to see if there's any other malfunctions," said Sgt. Jesse Garcia with the Minneapolis Police Department.

"You know, with the amount of equipment we wear sitting in cars with seatbelts and things like that, we're lucky this doesn't happen more often," he added.

The security guard will not be disciplined. Police say he was sitting down and leaning back in a chair when his holster got caught and the gun discharged.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunshow; leo
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Possession of loaded weapons at these shows by the general public is strictly verboten.

Only "security experts" are allowed. These shows are more peaceful than the Saturday morning checkout lines at the local grocery store.

I don't know why the feel the need to carry with one in the pipe....

1 posted on 02/21/2009 5:17:22 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Hmmm Anybody wanna bet it was a Glock????


2 posted on 02/21/2009 5:19:06 PM PST by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Because having to chamber a round takes more time than you might have when you need to use your weapon, that’s why.

That said, five bucks says it was really a holstering accident.


3 posted on 02/21/2009 5:19:17 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Thank God we have all this law enforcement making sure there is no shenanigans at gun shows /s


4 posted on 02/21/2009 5:20:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: China Clipper

Um, no, because it could have been a S&W M&P, a SigPro, an H&K....

Doesn’t have to be a Glock any more - but even before Glocks, idiots used to have holstering discharges... with REVOLVERS!


5 posted on 02/21/2009 5:20:21 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

The irony is so think, I don’t know if we could cut it with a chainsaw.


6 posted on 02/21/2009 5:21:51 PM PST by NVDave
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

The irony is so _thick_, I don’t know if we could cut it with a chainsaw.


7 posted on 02/21/2009 5:22:19 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Spktyr

First shooting that I’ve every heard of at one of these shows here......


8 posted on 02/21/2009 5:23:07 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (This Ain't No Party....This Ain't No Disco..)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

That’s quite a headline. I proposed a graphic for a banner against those who created the hideous trade imbalances and tried to cover those with the mcmansion housing bubble, unbacked derivatives, and so on. Many of the same schemers are pushing to ban firearms for us commoners.

The graphic is that of a burning house—great for flags, bumper stickers, site banners, etc.


9 posted on 02/21/2009 5:25:24 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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Reminds me of the cop who shot himself in front of a class of kids right after saying something like "I am the only one here professional enough to handle a gun."
10 posted on 02/21/2009 5:25:51 PM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: China Clipper
Anybody wanna bet it was a Glock

Anybody want to bet that the off-duty officers' story is complete BS?

11 posted on 02/21/2009 5:26:49 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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12 posted on 02/21/2009 5:27:37 PM PST by IncPen (Pitchforks and torches.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Only "security experts" are allowed.

Please be factual. These were policement, not security experts ...

13 posted on 02/21/2009 5:27:46 PM PST by ColdWater
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The shooting has been ruled an accident, but it did involve an off-duty Minneapolis police officer...."You know, with the amount of equipment we wear sitting in cars with seatbelts and things like that, we're lucky this doesn't happen more often," he added.

But remember folks, it's the "civilians" who can't be trusted with firearms....

14 posted on 02/21/2009 5:28:26 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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It's much harder to have a negligent discharge (there ARE no "accidental discharges" except in the case of mechanical failures which are quite rare) with a revolver, if you keep an empty chamber under the hammer. But you can do it if you really try.

The grip safety on the 1911A1 (which I used to carry) would keep something like this from happening, IF it occurred as described. The DA decocking lever and hammer bar on the Sig Sauer P245 (which I carry now) ditto.

I have the feeling it didn't happen as described though. I used to work for the Atlanta PD in my misspent youth, and most of the officers treated their service sidearm (in those days, .357 Mag revolvers with "Reggie Pellets" - .38 Special wadcutters) as just another tool, like a nightstick or a radio. You don't get good by qualifying once a year at the police range. Most were at best marginally competent, except for the ones who also were sport shooters. The regular competitor in combat pistol was the only one who could outshoot me -- a 16 year old girl with her mother's .32 S&W revolver.

Odds are this guy was fooling around with the firearm when it discharged.

15 posted on 02/21/2009 5:28:32 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I find the title interesting. If it had been anyone but a police officer who did it, the headline would have tarred the offendor. But they knew taking guns from police officers ala London is going too far


16 posted on 02/21/2009 5:28:41 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“”Something like this, it’s purely an accident. We’ve got the — [we’re] checking the holster to see if there’s any malfunctions, checking the gun to see if there’s any other malfunctions,” said Sgt. Jesse Garcia with the Minneapolis Police Department.

“You know, with the amount of equipment we wear sitting in cars with seatbelts and things like that, we’re lucky this doesn’t happen more often,” he added.

The security guard will not be disciplined. Police say he was sitting down and leaning back in a chair when his holster got caught and the gun discharged.

Cop shoots cop, it is to be expected. They carry too much gear. Maybe they should reduce their gear by at least one pistol.


17 posted on 02/21/2009 5:29:28 PM PST by ColdWater
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"Doesn’t have to be a Glock any more - but even before Glocks, idiots used to have holstering discharges... with REVOLVERS!"

Yep...need to have a holster that keeps the trigger finger out of the trigger guard, and only pull with the finger outside of the guard. ...carried a Glock, myself, and the pistol itself is okay.


18 posted on 02/21/2009 5:29:57 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: IncPen

LOL, IncPen. Poor Barn. ;-)


19 posted on 02/21/2009 5:31:20 PM PST by Miss Behave
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
We've got the -- [we're] checking the holster to see if there's any malfunctions, checking the gun to see if there's any other malfunctions," said Sgt. Jesse Garcia with the Minneapolis Police Department.

How about checking for operator malfunctions? Or do their cops check in their brains, but not their weapons, when they go off duty?

20 posted on 02/21/2009 5:31:20 PM PST by 300winmag (Zero to abject failure in under a month. A new land speed record!)
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