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Plan for the Restoration of the United States of America, a Representative Republic
n/a | 2/21/2009 | J Alfieri

Posted on 02/21/2009 5:26:02 PM PST by JoeA

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To: stylin19a

I’d like to see the President with one 6 year term
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I second your proposal! If the candidate knows he has 1 term to get it done, then he won’t spend the first 4 years getting reelected, and maybe he’ll be serious about his office!


61 posted on 02/21/2009 6:19:13 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: JoeA

Congress may not write law and then exempt themselves.


62 posted on 02/21/2009 6:22:52 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: patriot preacher
If the candidate knows he has 1 term to get it done, then he won’t spend the first 4 years getting reelected, and maybe he’ll be serious about his office!

More likely is that he'll do whatever he wants to do, because he doesn't have to worry about what the People think.

63 posted on 02/21/2009 6:29:03 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: JoeA

I’d like to see the age limits raised. Public office should be a second career, not a primary career. Think of how many of our worst politicians have no other job than public office, having entered public life at a very early age.


64 posted on 02/21/2009 6:30:24 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: Repeal 16-17
Two-thirds of the States may repeal any federal law, propose a Constitutional amendment or overrule a Supreme Court within a year of that decision.

Clearer wording:

Two thirds of the States may:

(1) repeal any federal law;

(2) propose a Constitutional amendment; or

(3) overrule a Supreme Court decision within a year of that decision.

I was worried my original wording would be interpreted to mean all three were only to be used in response to a Supreme Court decision.

65 posted on 02/21/2009 6:41:05 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: JoeA

The problem here is that this plan nor any other plan that breaks the back of the current federal monster will ever be enacted. The federal government has become little more than a criminal tyranny. This happens naturally because everything decays. Tyrants will never give up their power unless they are forced too. And our founding fathers knew it. Hence the second amendment. Absent that, we will be slaves because there are more takers than there are producers.


66 posted on 02/21/2009 6:44:45 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: FFranco

I agree except: limit Senators to two six year terms, for a total of 12 years. Limit Representatives to six two year terms for a total of 12 years. No full pension for Representatives or Senators unless they have served 24 years. If less, then the pension would be reduced and prorated based on the percentage of time served, ie, 12 years would equal one-half pension. Anyone serving less than 12 years would receive no pension.

All unions both government and private should be illegal. If employees want to get together and b!tch about work or watch sports and call it a union, that would be legal, but they shouldn’t have any rights with regard to work or bargaining with the employer. Unions have ruined America.

I especially like the indirect election of senators. That is what the founders intended.
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I understand where you’re coming from, but with six 2 yr terms for Reps and two 6 yr terms for Senators, you create virtually the same problem we have now — too many of the same people doing everything they can to STAY in DC for AT LEAST 12 years — and hopefully 24 so the taxpayers will pay their full pensions.

I suggest the much more limited 3 2 yr. terms for Reps, 1 6 yr term for Senators — and NO taxpayer funded pension (or at least not one that exceeds what their constituents can expect from Social Security. They serve us...

As much as I deplore Unions, one cannot outlaw them, simply because the 1st Amendment guarantees the right of the people to peacably assemble... If you want to go after unions, go after their corruption, their extortion and blackmail schemes, and their very real examples of violence and coercion, as well as their [all too common] ties to organized crime. Also, give workers more personal rights regarding how unions may spend their money/dues on politcal issues.

The indirect election of Senators should be restored — but remember, that will take the approval of 3/4th’s [38]of the states approval to overturn Amendment 17 with a new amendment to replace it.


67 posted on 02/21/2009 6:47:02 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: jmcenanly

1. No person may hold office unless they are a Veteran.
2. No person may vote unless they are a Veteran.
3. President’s first term is 4 years. Second term is two years, third term is 2 years. Keep the bastards honest and kowtowing to the voters until the last minute.
4. No person may be elected to the Congress (either house) for a length of more than 10 years.
5. Congress persons receive no pension, retirement, or 401(k) at all.
6. Congress persons will live in government provided housing while in Washington D.C. Representatives will be housed in housing appropriate to an O4 in the military. Senators’ housing will be similar to that afforded to O6s.
7. Medical service to all Congress persons, President, and the administration will be the equivalent to that received by the average American.
8. Congress persons pay will be $0 unless the budget is balanced. (Even including time of war and national emergencies.) Their pay will be 0.0001% of any surplus.
9. Any person working for the government will be executed if they are convicted of using their office for personal gain.
10. Citizens serving on a jury will be instructed in the rights of jury nullification and told that it is their responsibility to nullify any law they deem wrong or unconstitutional.
11. You can only serve on a jury if you are a Veteran.
12. Losers in civil lawsuits will pay all costs (the other side and the public court costs.


68 posted on 02/21/2009 6:48:26 PM PST by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: JoeA
Nothing you can do will change anything.

A representative republic can only function if the elected representatives of the people fear for their lives at the hands of those people if they do not follow their will.

They no longer fear us, and there is no reason for them to.

It's over.

We now live in a dictatorship of our own election.

69 posted on 02/21/2009 6:54:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: Nuc1

Exactly! None of the reforms we have suggested would be passed by the Congress, unless there’s a threat of something the Congress fears (e.g., a new Con-Con, secession, military coup, etc.).


70 posted on 02/21/2009 7:00:22 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: american_ranger
1. No person may hold office unless they are a Veteran.

2. No person may vote unless they are a Veteran.

3. President’s first term is 4 years. Second term is two years, third term is 2 years. Keep the bastards honest and kowtowing to the voters until the last minute.

4. No person may be elected to the Congress (either house) for a length of more than 10 years.

5. Congress persons receive no pension, retirement, or 401(k) at all.

6. Congress persons will live in government provided housing while in Washington D.C. Representatives will be housed in housing appropriate to an O4 in the military. Senators’ housing will be similar to that afforded to O6s.

7. Medical service to all Congress persons, President, and the administration will be the equivalent to that received by the average American.

8. Congress persons pay will be $0 unless the budget is balanced. (Even including time of war and national emergencies.) Their pay will be 0.0001% of any surplus.

9. Any person working for the government will be executed if they are convicted of using their office for personal gain.

10. Citizens serving on a jury will be instructed in the rights of jury nullification and told that it is their responsibility to nullify any law they deem wrong or unconstitutional.

11. You can only serve on a jury if you are a Veteran.

12. Losers in civil lawsuits will pay all costs (the other side and the public court costs.

I'm guessing you are a veteran who wants a military dictatorship.

71 posted on 02/21/2009 7:06:33 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: JoeA

These are all worthy ideas. Unfortunately, even if they were to be adopted they would only serve to delay the inevitable. Representative government in any form just doesn’t work over the long term.

Even so, I salute you for your thoughtfulness.

P.S. It’s “principles”, not “principals”.


72 posted on 02/21/2009 7:09:08 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Repeal 16-17

I guess you are a non-veteran who prefers a (better) Kleptocracy.


73 posted on 02/21/2009 7:09:43 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

No, I just believe all Americans should be able to be elected to public office.


74 posted on 02/21/2009 7:22:01 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: TomGuy

An elected official who chooses to run for another office, must resign from his elected post prior to running.

Any elected official who chooses to change parties after being elected must resign his office and may run for his vacated office.


75 posted on 02/21/2009 7:32:28 PM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

You believe that a non-veteran can be fully qualified to be the Commander-in-Chief? You believe that a non-veteran is fully qualified to chair a Congressional Committee on armed forces, veteran affairs, and so on? That’s the nitty gritty of it, isn’t it, let’s elect Jane Fonda (and some, many districts would) and appoint her to one of those committees.


76 posted on 02/21/2009 7:36:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

You seem to believe that the alternative to a veteran is a self-hating American Liberal, like Jane Fonda. Is a non-veteran American capable of being patriotic, intelligence and worthy of being in an elected office?


77 posted on 02/21/2009 7:39:41 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

No, I believe that the hypothetical rules that you protested, however unreasonable to liberals (small ‘l’) like yourself, are better than no rules that you prefer, and under which this Kleptocracy already operates (think Cynthia McKinney, as “anyone eligible”.) Traitor Ron Dellums who chaired the Armed Service Committee was a veteran, who passed military secrets to enemy, but white guilt gave him free pass long before the times of Osambo.


78 posted on 02/21/2009 7:45:26 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: JoeA

What about a balanced fracking budget?

The fair tax monies go into a pot - THAT is ALL they have to spend!


79 posted on 02/21/2009 7:51:13 PM PST by FrogMom (Lord, help us all!)
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To: FrogMom
fracking

Fracking? Not in in my Dick-Shawn-Airy!

80 posted on 02/21/2009 7:52:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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