Posted on 02/24/2009 9:36:31 AM PST by library user
When CNBCs Rick Santelli argued last week that President Barack Obamas mortgage bailout plan would force hardworking Americans to pay for their neighbors mistakes, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs dismissed him as a know-nothing derivatives trader out of touch with Main Street.
But if the White House simply dismisses Santellis point, it may do so at its peril: A Rasmussen poll released Monday found that 55 percent of those surveyed thought federal mortgage subsidies to those most at risk of losing their homes would be rewarding bad behavior.
Santellis Network-style diatribe has already spawned a Facebook group and plans for tea parties protesting the bailout in major cities including Chicago and Washington.
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armeys group FreedomWorks has spun off a site called angryrenter.com to organize those who dont own their homes to oppose the mortgage plan.
And its not just Republicans who are complaining.
Although Obama still floats on air among Democrats generally, hell need to use Tuesday nights unofficial State of the Union address to build support for his housing plan even among members of his own party. According to the Rasmussen poll, even 49 percent of Democrats oppose mortgage subsidies like the ones Obama has proposed.
Among them: Lynn Powers, 39, a Bethesda, Md., resident who describes herself as a liberal Democrat who has been hardworking, prudent and responsible and now feels like a fool.
We were in the market, she says. We put out eight bids and got outbid every time. It was very upsetting for us. I want to see some accountability and responsibility across the board. The only way for me to have an affordable home, and Im not looking for a McMansion at all, is if we let the chips fall, in a sense. This is still the bubble the prices have to come down. You cant just subsidize some of the people. I dont know how you deleverage. It is going to be painful, but this is also hurting the people who behaved responsibly.
What does she mean by responsibly?
People who didnt overbuy. Who stuck to their guns. Who read their contracts, she says. She and her husband wound up buying a 600-square-foot studio and moved to a rental when they had their daughter, now 18 months old.
My husband and I paid for our cars in cash, she says. We have no credit card debt. We have no student loans. I dont buy Starbucks, but thats because theyre non-fair trade, nonenvironmental.
When they tried to buy a house, she said, We just felt outgunned. And now, she says, I feel very outgunned as a citizen.
Another Maryland resident concurs: I am an Obama supporter, campaigned for him, baked cookies for him; my husband and I are Democrats all the way, but this is the issue that gets our goat.
Echoing Santellis complaint, a Silver Spring, Md., mom who did not want her name used adds: Im not sure why we should work and pay for someone else to have a granite countertop or an extra bathroom.
When asked about people who hadnt overreached but had lost their down-payment money when the value of their homes had dropped, she replies, We put money in a 401(k), and we lost that money, and no one is going to give it back.
Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), who founded the House Populist Caucus, says the president has actually gone to great lengths not to reward people who have been irresponsible, and that the plan is really an effort to stem another wave of foreclosures in order to stabilize the housing market, which would be to everyones benefit.
Michigan Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm, also a Democrat, agrees: This is not directed at those who didnt play by the rules, she says. Its directed at trying to fix a system so everyone can stay in their homes and so that everyones community is not negatively affected by the foreclosures that are popping up all over that neighborhood.
Still, notes Braley, I just dont think that that message has been said often enough and loud enough that people are starting to accept it as a justification of this plan.
Braley says he expects the president to go into more detail about how average homeowners are going to benefit on this during his speech to a joint session of Congress.
Like Braley, Alyssa Katz, author of Our Lot: How Real Estate Came to Own Us, a book due out in June about the making of the mortgage crisis, says she does not believe the message has come through clearly enough yet and that the administration needs to do more to make sure it does.
Ultimately, yes, its about homeowners, but its about the stability of the financial markets, she says. We have to give up this illusion that its about you and me. We have to accept, sort of blindly, the notion that we have to do this for the sake of the nation. Whether youre lucky and get aid or you already lost your home and youre screwed, were all in this together.
For the sake of the nation, i.e., socialism.
Whether youre lucky and get aid or you already lost your home and youre screwed, were all in this together.
Lucky? Getting aid is now considered "lucky"?
WTF?
Nice to see our tax dollars from 2012 hard at work today.
You just know Gibbs wanted to dismiss him as ‘a typical white person’....(chuckle)
Among them: Lynn Powers, 39, a Bethesda, Md., resident who describes herself as a liberal Democrat who has been hardworking, prudent and responsible and now feels like a fool.
...as well you should...A##WIPE!
Republican Party strategists, take note of this.
NOTHING will p!ss off voters -- even very liberal ones -- more than the idea that their hard-earned money is being used to finance someone else's stupidity, laziness, etc.
All part of the liberal entitlement position.... personal responsibility is for suckers I guess.
What a shame. 39 years old, with a child, and still hasn’t matured out of her teenage years.
Politico is a centrist/left small version of Moronic Media but the comments are full blown Obots.
giggle. that’s a good one
But this is the essence of liberalism. Using force to make the responsible pay for the consequences of the irresponsible.
This concept is inseparable from liberalism. Liberals can just choke on it if they don't like it.
“NOTHING will p!ss off voters — even very liberal ones — more than the idea that their hard-earned money is being used to finance someone else’s stupidity, laziness, etc.”
Bingo! The Republican leadership should be screaming from the rooftops that all the porkulus money, taxpayer money, is going to welfare queens and leeches!
Thanks, I try.
****Another Maryland resident concurs: I am an Obama supporter, campaigned for him, baked cookies for him; my husband and I are Democrats all the way, but this is the issue that gets our goat.*****
This wasnt a great secret. anybody with good sense could see what Obama was up to. She was told as were they all.To hell with this idiot and her baked cookies and any other yellow dog Democrats that saddled us with the Obamanation. I only wish she were forced to pay my share too since I didnt vote for the Usurper.
And the race card would be bottom dealt in a heartbeat. The GOP has been cowed by this threat forever.
On the flip side, "reparations" are EXACTLY what these porkulus bills are about. Punishing whitey and giving the spoils to minorities.
Said the last Lemming as it careened over the cliff......
The Stupid Ass Party should have been running clips of Santelli non-stop in commercials. The GOP is failing to capitalize on this, effing idiots.
Let them play the race card, they will anyway.
All taxpayers are sick of welfare leeches and supporting them.
Everything he does is "official." Not calling this a State of the Union address, doesn't make it not one. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
-PJ
I think that you are misstating what is happening here. This is simply a redistribution of wealth, but it is not designed to raise the under class, it is designed to lower the middle and upper class. They know that you can never raise the bottom to an acceptable level, and they don’t want to.
You can see the obvious results of this ideology in the public school, where they have been trying to dumb down the curriculum in an effort to protect the feelings of the lower performing students.
The motto for this is, Aim for mediocrity, it’s only fair.
a Bethesda, Md., resident who describes herself as a liberal Democrat who has been hardworking, prudent and responsible and now feels like a fool.
You and millions of other fools who voted for Zero!
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