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We Shouldn't 'Hire American' (Restricting H-1B visas for foreign workers amounts to protectionism)
Forbes ^ | Feb 25,2009 | George A. Pieler

Posted on 02/26/2009 5:43:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/26/2009 5:43:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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(Restricting H-1B visas for foreign workers amounts to protectionism)

Except that the H-1B visa program is predicated on there being a worker shortage. Somehow, I don't quite think that applies lately.

2 posted on 02/26/2009 5:45:43 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: SeekAndFind
The real problem, though, is the underlying principle of the law. The idea that native Americans (or Poles, or Koreans, or Egyptians) deserve special status in hiring is deliberate slap in the face of globalization.

I didn't realise that globalisation was a principle enshrined in American law....?

3 posted on 02/26/2009 5:47:43 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Jesus and the Apostles were Sola Scriptura)
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To: dirtboy

Not with unemployment heading into the double digit. They should freeze it until the economy improves and when there is not enough americans to fill jobs.


4 posted on 02/26/2009 5:48:49 AM PST by Roger_Wildcat
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What a gigantic lie! We still have an H1-B program, but now we are just not having lobby groups shower congressmen with cash to expand that to ridiculous levels. There has basically been no change since this expired many years ago, despite the attempts of Microsoft, Hewlett Patel, and other entities that want to see the American job down the Ganges.


5 posted on 02/26/2009 5:49:25 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

>is a deliberate slap in the face of globalization.

>I didn’t realise that globalisation was a principle enshrined in American law....?

Touche`


6 posted on 02/26/2009 5:50:54 AM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, but this is one area where we need protectionism. Some people want no restrictions on their ability to make a buck, even if it means destroying America.


7 posted on 02/26/2009 5:51:04 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Roger_Wildcat
They should freeze it until the economy improves and when there is not enough americans to fill jobs.

They were bringing in 240,000 H-1B workers during the 2002 IT slump. Shameless.

8 posted on 02/26/2009 5:51:32 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: SeekAndFind

Do these clowns ever give even the slightest bit of thought to the future of this nation or is it all dollar signs right now?

I’m starting to think they want socialism because it’s the only possible outcome of driving millions of Americans out of work and replacing them with foreign workers.


9 posted on 02/26/2009 5:53:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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They were bringing in 240,000 H-1B workers during the 2002 IT slump. Shameless.

And how many are they bringing in today ?
10 posted on 02/26/2009 5:54:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: dirtboy
Except that the H-1B visa program is predicated on there being a worker shortage. Somehow, I don't quite think that applies lately.

If there's a shortage, then I'm sure American workers would be willing to work for market-level wages, not ones inflated via protectionism. Is that true, or are we seeing Americans claiming to have no work, but just not willing to work for less than they believe they should be paid?

11 posted on 02/26/2009 5:55:04 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Globalization in and of itself, can kiss my backside. Foreigners are not Americans, and as such do not enjoy the benefits of bring an American citizen. Importing foreign workers is insanity, unless it can be proven that you can’t find anyone for any price.

It’s all about lowering American wages, that’s all.


12 posted on 02/26/2009 5:56:47 AM PST by ecomcon
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I saw the first people we replace with H1-B visa holders are people who write crap like this article.


13 posted on 02/26/2009 5:56:50 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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These companies should leave the US and go where labor is cheaper and corporate taxes are lower. I can't wait until we get rid of all these companies in the US trying to hire foreign workers.


</sarc>

TANSTAAFL!

14 posted on 02/26/2009 5:57:00 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: SeekAndFind
And how many are they bringing in today ?

I believe the number is fixed at 64,000.

15 posted on 02/26/2009 5:57:12 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Gondring

I think the problem is that the liberals have been so effective at destroying the American educational system, there is a shortage of QUALIFIED workers.


16 posted on 02/26/2009 5:58:20 AM PST by wolfpat (Revolt, and re-establish the Constitution as the law of the land!)
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To: Gondring
If there's a shortage, then I'm sure American workers would be willing to work for market-level wages, not ones inflated via protectionism.

I'm not quite sure how it is protectionist to adhere to the basic provisions of the H-1B visa guidelines, that the program should only be used to address bona fide labor shortages. If there is a surplus of labor (which there is now), guess what? Wages either stay the same or go down.

Try again.

17 posted on 02/26/2009 5:58:44 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: wolfpat
I think the problem is that the liberals have been so effective at destroying the American educational system, there is a shortage of QUALIFIED workers.

No, both parties want the laws of supply and demand to only work for employers, not employees. There are lots of qualified, older IT workers. But they basically get put out to pasture.

18 posted on 02/26/2009 5:59:38 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: SeekAndFind

Globalization of the labor market = indentured servitude.
All labor markets in truly free societies are local, this is the mechanism that holds supply and demand for labor in balance. For decades we have made it too easy to import cheap labor. If these folks want to emigrate and become Americans, there are other mechanisms in place. If they just want to make money and remain Paki, I’m not in favor.


19 posted on 02/26/2009 6:01:05 AM PST by steve8714 (How do you know your tattoo doesn't read "I love Mangina" in Chinese?)
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I saw several Indian Nationals on H1Bs being treated like crap by an agency of the US government when I was a contractor. They had to toe the line or the HR folks made their lives miserable. And the management exploited this every chance they got. The Indians were thankful to be here but knew they were on the short end of the stick.


20 posted on 02/26/2009 6:01:39 AM PST by pikachu (Don't be dumb -- we have Democrats for that)
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