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Radio chip coming soon to your driver's license?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 28, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/28/2009 4:24:21 AM PST by Man50D

Privacy advocates are issuing warnings about a new radio chip plan that ultimately could provide electronic identification for every adult in the U.S. and allow agents to compile attendance lists at anti-government rallies simply by walking through the assembly.

The proposal, which has earned the support of Janet Napolitano, the newly chosen chief of the Department of Homeland Security , would embed radio chips in driver's licenses, or "enhanced driver's licenses."

"Enhanced driver's licenses give confidence that the person holding the card is the person who is supposed to be holding the card, and it's less elaborate than REAL ID," Napolitano said in a Washington Times report.

REAL ID is a plan for a federal identification system standardized across the nation that so alarmed governors many states have adopted formal plans to oppose it. However, a privacy advocate today told WND that the EDLs are many times worse.

Radio talk show host and identity chip expert Katherine Albrecht said REAL ID earned the opposition of Christians because of its resemblance to the biblical "mark of the beast," civil libertarians opposed it for its "big brother" connotations and others worried about identity theft issues with the proposed databases.

"We got rid of the REAL ID program, but [this one] is way more insidious," she said.

Enhanced driver's licenses have built-in radio chips providing an identifying number or information that can be accessed by a remote reading unit while the license is inside a wallet or purse.

The technology already had been implemented in Washington state, where it is promoted as an alternative to a passport for traveling to Canada. So far, the program is optional.

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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodhs; bigbrother; driverslicense; napolitano; realid; rfid
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To: allmost

He..doesn’t....care


21 posted on 02/28/2009 5:13:47 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Man50D
And yet they think you shouldn't have to have any ID at all to vote in an election.
22 posted on 02/28/2009 5:15:28 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: driftdiver

Hatred/contempt of basic human reality is a pillar of leftism. I know they don’t care. I just wanted to add some dots to their database...


23 posted on 02/28/2009 5:17:46 AM PST by allmost
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To: kjam22

I accidentally washed a memory stick. It went through both the washer and dryer cycles before I found it. Worked fine afterwards.


24 posted on 02/28/2009 5:18:18 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: sonofagun
Stick the chipped DL inside a faraday cage (foil envelope) and it's useless to Law Enforcement.

The owner will be getting a notice in the mail from a roadside detector: "Vehicle being operated with no licensed driver. $100 fine."

25 posted on 02/28/2009 5:21:50 AM PST by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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To: Man50D

I wonder how many seconds of time in the microwave will be needed to cook the circuitry out of the license without melting the plastic card itself. Seems to me about 5 seconds will do it.


26 posted on 02/28/2009 5:26:55 AM PST by meyer (The left is flooding the ship - let's quit bailing water. We are all John Galt.)
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To: Man50D

15 seconds in a microwave should cook any chip.


27 posted on 02/28/2009 5:27:55 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Man50D
How about if you accidentally immersed it in water for an extended period of time?

Keeping a clean license is of great importance in Tennessee where, regardless of age, you must show ID when buying beer. I recommend 30 minutes soaking in very hot dishwater.

28 posted on 02/28/2009 5:28:59 AM PST by meyer (The left is flooding the ship - let's quit bailing water. We are all John Galt.)
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To: csvset
Good question . . . from a purely theoretical viewpoint, of course.
29 posted on 02/28/2009 5:29:39 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: Tribune7
This is not a defense of illegals but I would rather be up to my keister in Mexicans than have a ID card with a permanent bug in it.

I'd rather see 50 caliber machine gun nests placed every 300 yards or so along our southern border so that we don't have illegals here in the first place. Of course, I'm also against any kind of tracking capability in the hands of our "trustworthy" government.

30 posted on 02/28/2009 5:31:26 AM PST by meyer (The left is flooding the ship - let's quit bailing water. We are all John Galt.)
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To: Procyon

The metal auto body will act as a partial RF shield, and indeed anyone attempting to read a RFID chip via a roadside detector must anticipate that some drivers may have put their wallets in the glove box or other area of the vehicle that will sufficiently shield the chip, or at least the chip’s response to inquiry. In this case such roadside query becomes a random survey that can never be used to enforce 100% compliance.


31 posted on 02/28/2009 5:33:45 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: sonofagun

THe next step will be to make it illegal to do that.


32 posted on 02/28/2009 5:35:59 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: theBuckwheat

considering how prevalent Hacking gadgets is these days , I say bring it on, we can then reprogram chip to somebody elses info, I suggest an Elected Official or Jack booted Thug (leo).


33 posted on 02/28/2009 5:37:05 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: StatenIsland

That will be the one exception where they won’t be allowed to wave their magick wand


34 posted on 02/28/2009 5:37:37 AM PST by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: theBuckwheat

“In this case such roadside query becomes a random survey that can never be used to enforce 100% compliance.”

Whats random about it, checkpoints work fine.


35 posted on 02/28/2009 5:38:16 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: csvset
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2006/01/weapons_the_rfi.html

http://hackedgadgets.com/2006/10/08/rfid-zapper

http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/static/r/f/i/RFID-Zapper(EN)_77f3.html

36 posted on 02/28/2009 5:40:20 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Man50D

Leave the license clipped to the sunvisor or in the glove box unless you’re going to need the id some where. Having said that, what totalitarian, 1984-brained idiot came up with this idea?


37 posted on 02/28/2009 6:00:15 AM PST by Straight8 (Don't begin it if you're not in it to win it.)
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To: Pravious

‘and requiring you swipe it before using your ATM or Credit Card anywhere “Just to make sure you are who you say you are.”’

The wife and I had our ATM cards canceled because of a security breach.We were issued new ones but we haven’t activated them. We went back to using cash. It’s a bit more hassle but one thing I’ve noticed is we seem to get less junk mail.


38 posted on 02/28/2009 6:08:42 AM PST by kickonly88
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To: Man50D

Naa.....
Never happen!

It would be too big an imposition on the illegals.....


39 posted on 02/28/2009 6:12:39 AM PST by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: Man50D

RFID Blocking Wallet

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/8cdd/


40 posted on 02/28/2009 6:15:54 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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