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1 posted on 02/28/2009 7:17:30 AM PST by Delacon
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2 posted on 02/28/2009 7:18:00 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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..blame Algore


3 posted on 02/28/2009 7:18:17 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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4 posted on 02/28/2009 7:19:16 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 02/28/2009 7:19:30 AM PST by steelyourfaith (How many face lifts were required before the Speaker began speaking from her anal orifice?)
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Many people don’t realize that over geological time, we’re really in a CO2 famine now. Almost never has CO2 levels been as low as it has been in the Holocene (geologic epoch) — 280 (parts per million - ppm) — that’s unheard of. Most of the time [CO2 levels] have been at least 1,000 (ppm) and it’s been quite higher than that,” Happer told the Senate Committee.

“Earth was just fine in those times,” Prof. Happer noted. “The oceans were fine, plants grew, animals grew fine. So it’s baffling to me that we’re so frightened of getting nowhere close to where we started,” Happer explained.

Thats all that needs to be said to any enviroweenie that gets in your face next time.

 

6 posted on 02/28/2009 7:20:46 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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Earth to Obama, Earth to Obama, “hey buddy got your ears on?”


7 posted on 02/28/2009 7:25:58 AM PST by Need4Truth
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I’m surprised Boxer didn’t call him a heretic to his face.

This testimony was probably given with maybe 2 or 3 Senators in attendance at this Committee meeting.

None of which were swayed from their present path.


10 posted on 02/28/2009 7:28:48 AM PST by digger48
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Will this report put an end to the cap-and-trade bs?


12 posted on 02/28/2009 7:30:25 AM PST by abclily
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The CO2 and other carbon hysteria has nothing to do about science and everything to do about stirring up emotions so huge new hidden taxes can be levied. Obama and his fellow travelers know that once they enact the recently announced “soak the rich” taxes, the only way they can raise significant money from the personal income tax is to tax the “middle class” and the lower classes who pay no income tax. Those voters would then wake up so they have to find hidden taxes to levy on the middle and lower classes.

The recent hike in the cigarette levy was the first stealth tax enacted and it falls primarily on the lower classes. Carbon taxes will also not be visible on one’s paycheck stub as those taxes will be paid by business. Fuel prices (oil, natural gas, electricity) will go up to cover these big new taxes and the politicians will proudly tell their constituents it is evil oil companies and utilities preying on them. More show trials in front of a few committees until the people go back to watching American Idol and forget about it.

In some ways the carbon tax is a less efficient way to impose the European “value added tax” (VAT) on the US taxpayer. Instead of taxing added value at each step in the supply chain, it taxes only the consumption of carbon emitting energy.


13 posted on 02/28/2009 7:30:31 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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Oh no... lets PANIC because we don’t have much CARBON DIOXIDE. Oh wait, I’ll open a can of soda and plant a tree.


14 posted on 02/28/2009 7:30:35 AM PST by NoMarxist2010 (Rush: I hope he fails meant Rush wants Obama's SOCIALISTIC PROGRAMS to fail.)
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Just by the sheer size of the natural generation of carbon dioxide from ongoing life processes, whatever feeble little amount that man produces shrivels to total insignificance.

Despite rulings to the contrary, carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant, and attempts to picture the substance as being so, are either displaying willful ignorance, or knowingly propagating a falsehood. Carbon dioxide is so bound up in our very life processes, it cannot ever be disentangled. We are a carbon-based life form, for cat’s sake, and plants NEED carbon dioxide to even exist. Carbon dioxide is an essential part of the life cycle of all humanity, the entire animal kingdom, the entire plant kingdom and a great many inorganic reactions that take place in the earth’s crust, oceans, atmosphere, and the interior of the planet, and MUST be preserved at all costs.

Water vapor is from some twenty to over 100 times as potent a “greenhouse gas” as carbon dioxide could ever be. And it would be totally pointless to regulate water vapor.

Air Composition
The sea-level composition of air (in percent by volume at the temperature of 15°C and the pressure of 101325 Pa) is given below.

Name - Symbol - Percent by Volume
Nitrogen - N2 - 78.084 %
Oxygen - O2 - 20.9476 %
Argon - Ar - 0.934 %
Carbon
Dioxide - CO2 - 0.0314 %
Neon - Ne - 0.001818 %
Methane - CH4 - 0.0002 %
Helium - He - 0.000524 %
Krypton - Kr - 0.000114 %
Hydrogen - H2 - 0.00005 %
Xenon - Xe - 0.0000087 %

Water vapor is a highly variable component of the atmosphere, ranging from less than 1% to more than 4% of the volume of a given amount of air, and is expressed as “relative humidity”.

Source:
CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics
by David R. Lide, Editor-in-Chief

1997 Edition

Know this and know it for a certainty: Carbon dioxide is plant food. Without it, plants wither and die. It is our OBLIGATION to increase carbon dioxide to the degree we are able, to aid our plant life on this planet to grow and extend to its maximum limit.

There is no climate “cure”, because there is no climate “disease”. We rely on carbon-based fuel, and the excess carbon dioxide merely goes into accelerated and extended plant growth. So long as we encourage plant growth at every juncture, by cultivation and land management, the content of carbon dioxide shall never rise much above about 0.05% concentration in the atmosphere.

Plants require carbon dioxide to conduct photosynthesis, and greenhouses may enrich their atmospheres with additional CO2 to boost plant growth, since its low present-day atmosphere concentration is just above the “suffocation” level for green plants. A photosynthesis-related drop in carbon dioxide concentration in a greenhouse compartment can kill green plants.


16 posted on 02/28/2009 7:32:30 AM PST by alloysteel (The term "Islam" does not mean "peace", it means "gaining serenity through surrender".)
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“Almost never has CO2 levels been as low as it has been in the Holocene (geologic epoch) — 280 (parts per million - ppm) — that’s unheard of. Most of the time [CO2 levels] have been at least 1,000 (ppm) and it’s been quite higher than that,” Happer told the Senate Committee.”

Senate Committee : “Don’t confuse us with the facts”


17 posted on 02/28/2009 7:38:16 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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Ping!


21 posted on 02/28/2009 7:48:22 AM PST by MMinOH
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The site “CO2 Science.org” details research on the effects of co2 on plants. One of the latest finds is the effect on crown (upper layers) growth of 500 yr. old Douglas fir at 900 ppm. They found 125% increase in photosynthesis over the present levels.

Increased CO2 levels are also having a beneficial effect on crops. What environmentalism wants to call a “pollutant” is feeding us all and greening the planet.

22 posted on 02/28/2009 7:51:19 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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27 posted on 02/28/2009 8:04:59 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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32 posted on 02/28/2009 8:44:55 AM PST by Rumplemeyer
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I’ve been saying this for years. If we were to find a non-hydrocarbon energy source that could easily and cleanly meet all our needs, the environmentally responsible thing to do would be to dig up all the oil and coal and natural gas we could find and burn it anyway. CO2 is the building block of life. All the carbon removed from the biosphere needs to be returned to it. Perhaps that is Man’s real purpose. Perhaps the lack of CO2 is why there are few megafauna left.


34 posted on 02/28/2009 8:55:08 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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Don’t confuse the true believers with facts.


37 posted on 02/28/2009 9:10:29 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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It has nothing to do with the climate and EVERYTHING to do with stealing money from the people.


38 posted on 02/28/2009 9:16:11 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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bump, for comment if I feel like it. I kinda wish someone would explain the downsides of extreme rates of change to the esteemed Dr. Happer.


39 posted on 02/28/2009 9:22:41 AM PST by cogitator
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