Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Case threatens anonymity for website 'comments'
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | February 28, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 03/01/2009 4:50:47 AM PST by Man50D

A judge in one of the nation's most brutal carjacking and murder cases has openly questioned in court whether news websites – such as those covering his trial – should be permitted to allow open and anonymous "comments" sections at the bottom of Internet-posted stories.

"I'm saying if there is a profit, there is a responsibility that goes with it," said Criminal Court Judge Richard Baumgartner of Knox County, Tenn., to an attorney for the Knoxville News Sentinel.

"This is not the Internet. This is a site created by you in which you invite comments," the judge stated. "This is something you control."

Richard Hollow, the newspaper's attorney, argued that a court-imposed policy on the "comments" sections would be an unconstitutional infringement of First Amendment free speech rights.

"What the court is asking us to do is … set up a board of censorship," Hollow said.

The legal wrangling is part of the trial of five suspects charged in the January 2007 carjacking, rape and murder of Channon Christian, 21, and her boyfriend, Christopher Newsom, 23, in Knoxville, Tenn.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: channonchristian; internet; knoxville; lawsuit
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-44 next last

1 posted on 03/01/2009 4:50:47 AM PST by Man50D
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Man50D

The judge is an idiot and should be thrown off the case and lose his position as judge. Censor that you f’ing jerk!


2 posted on 03/01/2009 4:54:23 AM PST by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D
I'm sure the judge doesn't want the gruesome details of this horrific crime to be public and widespread knowledge.....people might get enlightened.

..therefore, he proposes to suppress the truth.

3 posted on 03/01/2009 4:57:36 AM PST by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Crazieman

I second that, hey Judge BUMgartner?!?!

Up yours, ya f—kin’ Nazi!


4 posted on 03/01/2009 4:57:59 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

Maybe the judge should spend a little time surfing the internet for some education.

The plethora of filth, hate, and desensitizing gore is nothing less than shocking and shameful.

If there is to be *ANY* censorship of the internet, it should start with incitements to murder and genocide, gratuitous sexual content, and “snuff” videos, including those posted by the Jihadi savages.


5 posted on 03/01/2009 4:59:40 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

Remember, this is the case that forever established the principle that white people can not be the victims of hate crimes.


6 posted on 03/01/2009 4:59:46 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D
A judge in one of the nation's most brutal carjacking and murder cases has openly questioned in court whether news websites – such as those covering his trial – should be permitted to allow open and anonymous "comments" sections at the bottom of Internet-posted stories.

So here are my questions for the judge:

1. What's the operative law or legal precedent, if any, that would warrant control of verbal commentary?

2. What's the compelling state interest, if any, in controlling such commentary?

It seems to me that the private-property argument mitigates for a free-speech interpretation, rather than against it.

7 posted on 03/01/2009 5:05:28 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Westbrook
The plethora of filth, hate, and desensitizing gore is nothing less than shocking and shameful.

And that's just the home page at DU.

8 posted on 03/01/2009 5:06:23 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Man50D
"This is not the Internet. This is a site created by you in which you invite comments,"

Huh?

9 posted on 03/01/2009 5:07:16 AM PST by milestogo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard

> And that’s just the home page at DU.

:)

That’s among the reasons that I *NEVER* visit that site


10 posted on 03/01/2009 5:08:40 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

If the cities ignite, will Obama’s 9/08 “get in their face” command mean anything?


11 posted on 03/01/2009 5:11:02 AM PST by polymuser (Wake up, America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

This isn’t so cut and dried. I think cases like these need to be viewed, cases by case.

More from the article:

The legal wrangling is part of the trial of five suspects charged in the January 2007 carjacking, rape and murder of Channon Christian, 21, and her boyfriend, Christopher Newsom, 23, in Knoxville, Tenn.

As WND reported, five defendants face nearly 50 counts of kidnapping, robbery, gang-rape, murder and theft charges after Christian and Newsom were abducted, assaulted and tortured repeatedly over a period – probably of days – before being shot and killed.

Details in the aftermath of the slayings were not widely released, leading to a flurry of speculation – much of it unfounded – on the grisly details of the crime.

Internet “comment” sections also became a hotbed of discussion with particularly racial themes, as the victims were white and alleged perpetrators black.

Allowing anonymous, irresponsible comments to be published online, the petition argues, contaminates the jury and violates defendant’s Sixth Amendment rights to a fair trial.

An attorney for WBIR-TV, which along with the News Sentinel is specifically named in the petition, argued that the “comments” sections of their websites constitute a “giant bulletin board,” and as such is protected by the First Amendment.


This is a perfect example showing how sometimes protecting the rights of one group can infringe upon the rights of another.


12 posted on 03/01/2009 5:14:34 AM PST by Netizen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

What if we didn’t have the internet? What if people sent post cards through the mail to each other about the case? Would he want the cards screened?


13 posted on 03/01/2009 5:17:02 AM PST by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard
And that's just the home page at DU.

I thought it was the judge's FaceBook page.

14 posted on 03/01/2009 5:20:46 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Netizen
This is a perfect example showing how sometimes protecting the rights of one group can infringe upon the rights of another.

That's assuming everyone agrees on the definition of what are considered irresponsible comments and who makes that decision. That makes it very subjective and creates a slippery slope of censorship. There are two courts. The court of law and the court of public opinion. Their purposes often collide. The latter can't be shutdown without violating the 1st amendment.
15 posted on 03/01/2009 5:26:44 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

The judge is afraid the jurors will be influenced by the TRUTH! Judge and defense attorney: There is no Constitutional right for the accused to have STUPID, IGNORANT jurors!


16 posted on 03/01/2009 5:27:39 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

Hey, where’s Jesse and Al? Oh yea—that’s only perceived white on black injustice like Duke La Crosse players. If any black thugs maime and kill whites, it’s just an ordinary crime by boyz in the hood who were misunderstood. I’m sick of this crap.


17 posted on 03/01/2009 5:33:16 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Man50D
The court of law and the court of public opinion.

That's exactly what they are complaining about. The court of public opinion (the comments) are jeopardizing the court of law.

18 posted on 03/01/2009 5:33:31 AM PST by Netizen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Netizen
That's exactly what they are complaining about. The court of public opinion (the comments) are jeopardizing the court of law.

It's not agreed they are jeopardizing the court of law procedures.
19 posted on 03/01/2009 5:35:05 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

TOR
http://www.torproject.org/


20 posted on 03/01/2009 5:35:52 AM PST by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-44 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson