Skip to comments.U.S. rattled as Mexico drug war bleeds over border
Posted on 03/01/2009 2:23:25 PM PST by Carbonsteel
PHOENIX (Reuters) Hit men dressed in fake police tactical gear burst into a home in Phoenix, rake it with gunfire and execute a man.
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It would be nice if our elected officials would do something brazzen, like uphold the constitution.
Can you here me now, you corrupt, worthless politicians!
They’re just doing the hit jobs Americans won’t do or something like that ....
And remember, it’s not an amnesty bill ...
All pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others ...
When is our governement going to get off is dead ass and do something about this?Ah, let's see.
For 8 long years Jorge Bush did zero.
And now we have a President Zero.
Soooo.... ahhhh... my guess... is.... NEVER.
At what point are Americans supposed to assume they’re real cops, or assume they’re not?
Build a fence and a MOAT.
This story is BS as Nappy Napolitano the head of Homeland Security says the violence isn’t spilling over our well secured borders. Who are you going believe, the dead bodies and kidnappings here or our government?
< / sarcasm >
I didn't think about that. Law Enforment agencies accross the country should be in an uproar.
It will probably take some cop getting shot by mistake before anything is said or done and the media probably won't touch the story regardless, so the sheep will never know when it happens.
Just mine the damned border and be done with it.
Eventually this stuff was going to jump the US border
We need to fight the politicians, Chamber of Comemrce, Hispanic Klux Klan groups...and all those who support illegal alienism
First...it needs to be emphasized, repeatedly: “Illegal Alien (Amnesty) is Anti-American Bigotry...if you support Illegal Aliens...you are Anti-American”
The only way this type of crime will stop is to get in the face of those who support this activity
Seems like a valid defense in Arizona now, “My client didn’t know if the victim was actual law enforcement or part of a drug cartel hit squad posing as law enforcement.”
Well that's very sweet of you Janet baby, but how about doing the hard work and focus on protecting Americans from the NORTHBOUND CRIMINALS?
COMPLETELY agree with you.
Well, she’s well on her way to a never-ending stream of stupid answers. Yeah, Janet, the drug cartels will never find a way to weapons after you cut them off.
Good grief. She’s incredibly stupid.
How many times do I have to say it.
Send the Army into Mexico and annex it as a territory.
We did that to New Mexico and California in the 19th century.
Why not just complete the job? We will continue to have Mexico as a problem until we seize it and make it part of the USA. As an American territory we would be free to clean up the riff-raff and wipe out the drug lords. God knows we can’t depend upon the Mex government to do this. Besides it needs doing.
As Limbaugh points out, stupidity is costly. It is also deadly. Liberals squander dollars and lives equally.
This problem has been brewing for a lot longer than eight my FRiend.
The federal government is going to do exactly nothing about this...why should they? Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, are mostly Republican voting states...Obama’s not gonna help them.
Just wait until congress legalizes all the illegals here...and that’s coming...more welfare recipients and Democrat voters.
That’s all they care about.
Don't hold your breath, these are real criminals and are thus pretty scary. It's much easier to control a largely law abiding population than to deal with anarchy like this. Maybe earmark them a billion or so, and then they'll go home.
U.S. Grant and a few of his men dragged a twelve pounder to the top of a church steeple and leveled it at the executive palace; that got the Mexicans' attention back then. I hope it hasn't reached that level yet, but it doesn't look good.
No doubt about it. These people aren't stupid, this is deliberate. What their plan is, one can only speculate.
Because everyone in Mexico will be entitled to food stamps, welfare, student loans, housing, social security, disability, unemployment, Medicare, Medicaid, minimum wage and free legal advice.
Plus, they hate Americans.
I wonder if she’s seen the kind of hardware involved in these gun battles down south. Either the cartels have a different supply of weapons or I’ve been missing the grenade and full auto aisle at the gun show.
Hey there, you radical. Don't rock their comfortable little boat by making wild, irresponsible suggestions like that.
I don’t disagree with stopping the flow of weapons to drug lords and genuine criminal gangs. Some of the hardware involved is hand grenades, mortars, and RPGs. I suspect these things are made in China, if not supplied by China. Typical liberal though, she wants to concentrate on firearms sold in America.
Quote: "Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano
denied Thursday that the latest drug-fueled violence in
Mexico has spilled across the border, even as local officials
throughout the country see troubling signs of Mexican
Mad Max comes to a neighborhood near you.
I am trying to remember the last time I went to Wal Mart and bought a hand grenade or any other chinese made military equipment.
Nice of our Government TO NOT DO the one specific thing that the Constitution requires...protection of our sovereign borders. And they want to disarm us....bwahahahaha
They are! Didn't you hear Eric Holder? He want's to re-instate a new and improved "assault weapons" ban. That'll stop those Mexican drug lords!
Agreed! Do you think the government will call out the Mormons like they did back then?
For 8 long years Jorge Bush did zero.Yes. You are right. It goes back many decades.This problem has been brewing for a lot longer than eight my FRiend.
But that doesn't make what I said untrue:
For 8 long years GWB did nothing on this issue.
Less than nothing.
He capitulated to the Mexicans. He capitulated to the rats.
He oversaw the railroading of 2 good Americans working on the border patrol. (I know, in the end he commuted their sentences. Better than nothing, but not justice.)
Just mine the damned border and be done with it.
I was going to say "you must be new," but you're not, so you must have just missed it a ways back... There were some threads about securing the borders, and other threads about how alligators in FL have lost their fear of humans, and there had been a spate of attacks. Well, this being FR, someone came up with a way to fix both problems at once... Build a moat along the border, and stock it with alligators, especially the ones who aren't afraid of people.
Look at it in a broad historical context. In about 197 AD the Roman Emperor Septimius Severus pulled all of the troops out of the border forts along the Rhine and Danube and marched them off to fight a war against the Parthians (Iranians) in what is, coincidentally, now Iraq. This had the effect of giving Rome the same kind of "open borders" policy that we enjoy today.
Over the next 250 years or so gangs of illegal immigrants swarmed across the borders of the Roman Empire, looting, pillaging and no doubt doing work no Roman would do, until they broke up the internal cohesion of the empire and finally sacked Rome itself. What we see today is the early stages of this process as applied to America.
In the early third century the Roman Empire was distracted by foreign adventures and internal political strife and didn't do anything to counter what came to be called the barbarian invasions until it was way too late. We may still have time but you are right - our government needs to get off its dead ass and do something pretty quick before it's too late to prevent the Sack Of Washington.
Now the they’ve murdered a US Senator’s son, things will change.
The victim wasn’t a senator’s son?
These people have enough cash money to acquire whatever they want, from any market in the world. I'd look for containers of arms and ammo coming from the far east. Who's actually selling them, who knows? I'll bet the state department has a clue.
On the other hand, they can't seem to do that in southern California, and last time I checked that was a part of the USA.
This problem is way beyond fixing now...All that is left are consequences.
All the Mormons did was march to California and shoot the bull. Google... Mormon battalion battle of the bulls.
My bet would be that our Government knows EXACTLY where the automatic weapons and explosives are coming from and who is involved.
Don't forget the words of Rahm Emmanuel...
"Never let a serious crisis go to waste."
As we saw with the bail-outs and the stimulus plan, it's amazing how much can be rammed through congress and get enacted without anyone bothering to read any part of the bills, or knowing what's in them.
I remember Wayne LaPierre saying that Bill Clinton was willing to accept a certain level of gun violence for political use. The media (including the dems) ripped him up one side and down the other, but never seemed to actually repudiate what he said. I can see Obama and Holder using this sort of thing to demand the licensing of all gun owners, and the registration of all guns, with a limit on the amount of ammunition one is allowed to buy, plus HUGE excise tax increases in order to fund these new programs.
I know all about it. My Gr. Gr. Grandfather was the “butcher” who slit the bull’s throat. Honest. At least they served when called upon and often w/o pay.
***At least they served when called upon and often w/o pay.***
They served. That is good. Meanwhile, Steak’s on! Toss the hardtack and beans!
Another bull fell wounded near one of the butchers, Robert Harris. He ran over to cut the animals throat but when he bent over the bull sprung to his feet, swung a horn around taking a swipe at Harris head. Instead it caught his butchers cap on the tip and ran off with it.
In the midst of battle Harris was chasing the bull shouting, Stop you thief!
He chased the animal some 75 yards before it gave up the ghost and fell to the ground——and his butchers knife.
He then proceeded on to Sutter’s Fort and worked panning gold, walked across the Sierra Nevada Mtns., across the Salt Flats into Salt Lake City expecting his family to be there. They weren’t, so he walked back to Iowa working as a butcher to round up enough money a wagon to make the trek westward. It is said that he walked a total of 5000 miles. Say what you want, but they don’t make men like that anymore! I am proud to have his blood running through my veins.
>>”Steaks on! Toss the hardtack and beans!”<<
Let me pull on my boots and I’ll be right over!
The problem is, why on earth would we want it and what would we do with it if we had it?
Here are some facts:
Area of Mexico: 1,973,000 square km
Area of the Vietnam: 330,000 square km
Population of Mexico: 110,000,000
Population of Vietnam: 86,000,000
Population of Mexico City and suburbs: 22,000,000
Population of Guadalajara and suburbs: 4,300,000
Population of Monterrey and suburbs: 3,800,000
Population of Puebla and suburbs: 2,100,000
Mexico has a very nationalistic population and a political class that leans much further to the left than the US does. Assuming the population of Mexico were to passively submit to US conquest (they won't) the United states would be stuck with four ghetto slum cities with populations over 2 million that make Detroit look like Palm Beach County, a manufacturing sector whose "cheap labor" model is being killed by China's "cheapest labor" model,a semi-literate rural culture, an abysmal urban infrastructure, a non-existent rural infrastructure and about 50,000,000 left of liberal voters.
Then of course there are the drug cartels, rural village gangs who rob passing 18 wheelers, urban kidnap gangs, protection rackets, pick pockets and a political class that makes Bill Clinton look like Thomas Jefferson.
The last thing on God's Green Earth the United States wants is to "annex" Mexico.
Yes, and she left Arizona without ever having any type of emergency plan in place. Just priceless.
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