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Thousands of Federales Hit Juarez
Mail Foriegn Service ^ | March, 3, 2009 | staff

Posted on 03/03/2009 4:37:06 PM PST by KTM rider

Armed to the hilt, they came from land and air, determined to restore order to Mexico's most violent city.

Nearly 2,000 Mexican soldiers and armed federal police poured into the border town of Ciudad Juarez last weekend.

The city - just across from El Paso in Texas - has been ravaged by drug gangs. Just this month 250 people were killed there by hitmen fighting for lucrative smuggling routes.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity; drugs; drugwarconsequences; illegalimmigration; thankprohibition; warwedarenotspeakof
We don need no steeenking borders !

I find it appalling that our government keeps denying the levity of the border security problem and the impact of immigration on the economy , 1.6 BILLION dollars is exported legally each month through wire transfer home to mexico by individuals, not to mention all the other financial impact issues,

good to see mexico is finally cracking down a bit

1 posted on 03/03/2009 4:37:06 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: KTM rider
You guys lose me at the "dollars going home to Mexico." Many of those dollars end up back in American banks. Dollar flows are not a one way street. Besides, with the coming inflation, a large outflow of dollars may not be such a bad thing. ;-)

The dumb peasant wing of the conservative movement really needs to be educated on basic economics. Besides, without los frijoleros spending their money on junk, half of the Wal Marts in this country would collapse, to say nothing of sales of the Texas constructed Toyota Tundra...

2 posted on 03/03/2009 4:40:20 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: KTM rider

I would watch out for the Federales. They aren’t so nice. Better have your bribe money available and don’t be cheap. I had a friend get his shoulder shot up when he was slow on coughing up the dough.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 4:41:01 PM PST by Dacula (You are where you are by the choices you make)
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To: KTM rider
good to see mexico is finally cracking down a bit

Wouldn't it be nice if ours cared enough to do something on the border!

4 posted on 03/03/2009 4:41:59 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: KTM rider

The readers comment that made me laugh: “They didn’t send in any social workers.”


5 posted on 03/03/2009 4:42:01 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: KTM rider

Hey!

If we don’t need a border and troops, why do they?

I’m glad they’re trying to fix it.

Too bad it probably won’t light a fire under the lard999888s in DC.


6 posted on 03/03/2009 4:42:42 PM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: Clemenza

The dumb illegals need to wake up and realize they are breaking the law.


7 posted on 03/03/2009 4:42:49 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Dacula

by the end of the year, terrorists will be lobbing rockets and mortars over the border. Obozo will blame Bush, write a sternly worded letter to the UN and then put his thumbs back up his a$$.


8 posted on 03/03/2009 4:44:01 PM PST by wny
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To: Dacula

by the end of the year, terrorists will be lobbing rockets and mortars over the border. Obozo will blame Bush, write a sternly worded letter to the UN and then put his thumbs back up his a$$.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 4:44:14 PM PST by wny
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To: KTM rider

I know people in Juarez right now.


10 posted on 03/03/2009 4:44:42 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: wny

bump


11 posted on 03/03/2009 4:46:07 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
The dumb illegals need to wake up and realize they are breaking the law.

No! The gubment better wake up and realize the illegals are breaking the law!

12 posted on 03/03/2009 4:46:25 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: KTM rider
Mexico needs a Los Pepes type operation, big time. Hit the big guys hard and then harder...
13 posted on 03/03/2009 4:46:44 PM PST by eureka! (Elections have consequences, boy howdy. *sigh*)
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To: Clemenza
Not just that, but how many dollars are we sending to Mexico by buying drugs? I'm not a drug warrior . . . I'm just observing that we are bitching about the creek and ignoring the river.
14 posted on 03/03/2009 4:48:16 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Actually, its our DUMB GOVERNMENT that needs to wake up and DO ITS JOB enforcing immigration laws!


15 posted on 03/03/2009 4:48:50 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: KTM rider

From what I have seen, at least half of these Federales probably work for the drug cartels in their spare time.

This isn’t a game of cops and robbers; this is a civil war among competing mobsters.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 4:51:01 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Clemenza

Actually, few foreign banks are owned by US banks throughout Central America. Citibank is the only US investor in Guatemala, for instance, in a bank that is dubiously capitalized at best, to their chagrin. They thought they knew what they were buying two years ago...

So, the dollars do not end up in American banks, at least not for a while, until people buy something that then gets eventually back here. So, why is this any better than having the dollars stay here in the first place?

Second, no one should give a dang that we’ve had an artificial economic boom given to Wal-Marts or such due to illegals spending money in the US that they’ve earned illegally in the US. The net cost of these illegals is far worse (with medical, government, charitable, and judicial benefits and without having to pay taxes (unless they gave a stolen ID with its SS# and have had their withholding done) along with the crime issues the drug and gang-related illegals bring).

Take your illegals and you support them. Let them rape the women in your family in exchange for helping build a truck.


17 posted on 03/03/2009 4:53:14 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Who is now in charge of the "Office of the President-Elect"?)
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To: Clemenza
Actually, its our DUMB GOVERNMENT that needs to wake up and DO ITS JOB

The current administration is doing its job. The illegals are just another disenfranchised segment of American society, and as such, they will be given preferential treatment. Our taxpayers can afford to help bolster the continuation of our ruling party by supplying a fresh supply of needy voters. The former GOP will go along with this theme in the spirit of bipartisanship. Sort of makes one feel warm all over, eh?

18 posted on 03/03/2009 4:57:21 PM PST by glock rocks (The beast has risen.)
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To: Clemenza
half of the Wal Marts in this country would collapse, to say nothing of sales of the Texas constructed Toyota Tundra.

WalMart and Toyota did just fine for years BEFORE all the illegals flowed in. I stopped shopping at WalMart because it is little Mexico now, and I know many other "non illegals" who have also. As well as a few other stores.

19 posted on 03/03/2009 5:00:57 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: ConservativeMind
There are many private bankers in Miami and New York who would disagree with your sentiment. I agree that illegals should have been deported yesterday, but the argument of the "chuck-a-boots" that "all dem dawlers r goin' to Messico and not comin' back" is ridiculous, as if dollars were some magic elixir (well, uh, sometimes they are). In a fiat world of convertible currencies, such arguments ring hollow.

Go after the illegals for their impact on social services and the RULE OF LAW, but the "dollars are flowin' out" argument makes us all look like toothless townspeople from a Hammer Studios horror film.

20 posted on 03/03/2009 5:04:36 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

I know. Wally World in my rather affluent town is dominated by folks speaking (Guatemalan and Mexican) Spanish, Urdu, Polish, Portuguese, and Ebonics.


21 posted on 03/03/2009 5:06:23 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: La Lydia

Two social workers are walking down the street. They see a man who has been mugged and beaten up, and is laying on the sidewalk barely conscious. One social worker says to the other “Someone needs to help the poor man that did that to him.”


22 posted on 03/03/2009 5:19:57 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Clemenza
Actually, its our DUMB GOVERNMENT that needs to wake up and DO ITS JOB enforcing immigration laws!
We don't have a dumb government anymore. We now have an evil government.

Our dumb government was voted out in 2006 and 2008.

23 posted on 03/03/2009 5:53:35 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Clemenza

BS, BS and BS, thank you for your opinion though, now go back to DU


24 posted on 03/03/2009 9:08:10 PM PST by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: Clemenza

dollars flowing out like a raging tide, never to return is mostly why there is a worldwide economic crisis today, I think it is you who needs a lesson in economics 101, clemenza, your arguments sound like a La Raza textbook


25 posted on 03/03/2009 9:14:26 PM PST by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: Clemenza
There are many private bankers in Miami and New York who would disagree with your sentiment.

I'm trained as much as they are with my degrees. I don't care about people who are happy with illegal activity. Legally-made money, being transferred, is fine with me.

Your prior comment was ignorant, in that you said monies going out of the country are not counted in our money supply, supposedly reducing out inflation. Out money supply is the aggregate of our dollars wherever they are in the world. Inflation is not impacted by dollars outside of the country but with the total number of dollars in circulation against the total demand. Print a ton more, you deflate the value of the dollar. However, if everyone overseas burnt their dollar bills, THAT would help us. I don't see that happening, Clemenza.

Those dollars are much better earned by legal Americans who are properly taxed and properly held accountable before the law.

It doesn't take a ‘knuckle-draggin’ Republican to understand these things, but strangely, it is lost on you, Clemenza.

Oh, and I am for free trade. That is a legal way to have dollars flow for legitimate goods and services.

26 posted on 03/03/2009 9:22:51 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Who is now in charge of the "Office of the President-Elect"?)
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To: Dacula

Yes it happened to a friend of mine at Rosarito Beach, Baja in 1976, The federales came to fine (rob) a large group of us friends after midnite for “illegal camping” I gave them my $25 I kept in easy reach, he was grumbling and said no so they shot him in the stomach, it hit his spine and now he is a quad who counsels the newly paralyzed. we rushed him all the way to san diego and we ran through the border crossing breaking the stick, the US border patrol gave chase, pulled us over and then led us to the emergency room


27 posted on 03/03/2009 9:25:26 PM PST by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: ConservativeMind
“Those dollars are much better earned by legal Americans who are properly taxed and properly held accountable before the law.”

I agree. That's one of the reasons I think it's time to regulate the production and sales of marijuana, so that tax paying law abiding citizens will earn all those billions of dollars. As it is, marijuana is the cash cow for Mexican drug trafficking organizations. It's what is providing them with most of their money, about 62% of their gross receipts from drugs bound for the U.S. Take that away from them and they will be smaller, less powerful and far less of a threat in Mexico and here. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022208dnintdrugs.3a98bb0.html

28 posted on 03/04/2009 9:11:46 AM PST by TKDietz
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