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Do We Need 10 Million Syrian Women To Be Killed-Sex with Syrian Prostitutes after Temporary Marriage
MEMRI ^ | 3-3-09

Posted on 03/03/2009 5:41:28 PM PST by SJackson

Syrian Women's Rights Activist Bassam Al-Qadhi: The Syrian Government is Lenient Towards 'Honor Crimes'; 'Do We Need 10 Million Syrian Women To Be Killed Before We Face Up to the Problem?'
 
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD226809

Following are excerpts from an interview with Syrian women's rights activist Bassam Al-Qadhi, which aired on Al-Dunya TV on February 11, 2009:

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"The Problem With Us is Not That We Kill [Women], While Others Do Not - The Problem is That We Reward the Killer"

Bassam Al-Qadhi: "The killing of women because they are women is a worldwide phenomenon. The problem with us is not that we kill [women], while others do not. The problem is that we reward the killer. This is where the difference lies.

"In Europe or America, someone might kill his wife because he suspected she was having an affair with a neighbor, for example. He might kill her, but he will stand trial as a murderer, and he will go to jail. He will not receive a legal certificate of good character, saying that he was 'defending his honor.'

"The problem with us is that we give a certificate of good character for this, that we say to him: 'Off you go. You can enjoy your life, because you killed your wife, your daughter, or your sister.' This is the fundamental difference, and this is what we are trying to change." [...]

"Since We Started In September 2005... We Have Not Encountered Even a Single Crime Perpetrated on the Spur of the Moment Because Of the Women's Sexual Conduct"

Al-Qadhi: "Since we started in September 2005 and to this day, we have not encountered even a single crime perpetrated on the spur of the moment, because of the women's sexual conduct. All the crimes were perpetrated because a girl had married someone her family did not approve of, or someone from a different sect or religion, or else because they wanted to rob her of her share of the inheritance.

"Many women in Syria are murdered under the false pretext of family honor, in order to rob them of their share of the inheritance, and thus, the men in the family would get hold of all the assets." [...]

"Because Of Articles 548 And 192 of the Penal Code, [A Man Who Perpetrates An Honor Killing] Gets Only Three Months to Three Years in Jail"

Al-Qadhi: It is sufficient for a man to say - as indeed happened in late 2008: 'My wife is a midwife, and she goes out at night to villages to deliver babies.' We all know that midwives in Syria have strong moral values. 'She is often absent. She must have a lover.' Even though he had no proof, he killed her. But the real reason was that she had saved a little money for her children from her hard work, and he wanted to get his hands on the money. This is a murderer. The law should treat him as a murderer, but because of articles 548 and 192 of the penal code, he gets only three months to three years in jail.

[...]

Interviewer: "The justice minister questions the veracity of your statistics and classifications, saying that the ministry does not have statistics on honor crimes, and that the penal code is one of the codes under review, as part of the policy of updating and improving the current laws, including those pertaining to honor crimes. He said that this requires preparation. Why don't you give them time?"

"Do We Need 10 Million Syrian Women to Be Killed Before We Face Up to the Problem?"

Al-Qadhi: "With all due respect to the justice minister, when it comes to murder, there is no need whatsoever for preparation. It is unnecessary to review national plans - such as the tenth five-year plan - in order to know that Syrian women will be murdered."

Interviewer: "Some committees are still working..."

Al-Qadhi: "But they have been doing so for years, and meanwhile women are being murdered.

[...]

Al-Qadhi: "To this day, the Syrian government has been very passive. The minister of social and labor affairs denounced [us], saying, in effect: Do 200 Syrian women [who are killed annually] merit all this commotion? If 200 Syrian women do not merit such a commotion, how many would you like? Do we need 10 million Syrian women to be killed before we face up to the problem?"

 

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Former Hizbullah Member Rami 'Aleiq: We Used to Have Sex with Syrian Prostitutes after Signing Temporary Marriage Contracts With Them
 
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD226909

Following are excerpts from an interview with Rami 'Aleiq, the former head of the Hizbullah Students Union at the AmericanUniversity in Beirut, which aired on Rotana Music TV on August 25, 2008.

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"Three Things Influenced My Personality... The School, the Street, and [Home]... But... the Influence of the Street Culture Prevailed"

Rami 'Aleiq: "I was born in 1972, before the Lebanese civil war. As soon as I came into this world, I witnessed forced emigration, great anarchy, war, and weapons. Undoubtedly, this had an impact on me, and left me with question marks and a sense of rejection, even as a child.

[...]

"One is raised on certain notions - whether religious, political, cultural, ideological, or social - but later, one realizes that these notions gradually fall apart before one’s eyes."

[...]

Interviewer: "When you were young, you were a thug. You stabbed your sister with a knife because she didn't want to wear the hijab. You were 14 years old at the time."

Rami 'Aleiq: "Right."

Interviewer: "You accused your family of apostasy, saying they were infidels and sinners. Such a criminal worldview in a teenager... Who shaped it for you?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "First of all, I'm not sure I agree with the word 'criminal.' This is the product of society. It was shaped by the street. Three things influenced my personality, as they influence the personality of any teenager or child..."

Interviewer: "Stabbing is not a crime?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "Taken by itself, it is a crime. But crimes have underlying social circumstances. I was just a child, a minor. [A child is influenced] by the school, the street, and his home. My home was moderate, and so was my school, but the street was overflowing with extremism. The influence of the street culture prevailed." [...]

"It Is Not Just Hizbullah... All [The] Parties Rely On Teenagers"

Interviewer: "Let's return to when you were 13 or 14 years old. That year, you took up arms and became a fighter for Hizbullah. The rifle must have been bigger than you."

Rami 'Aleiq: "Right."

Interviewer: "Does Hizbullah's army need 13-year-old children in its ranks?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "To be honest, it is not just Hizbullah. This applies to all the parties. All parties rely on teenagers."

[...]

Archival footage shown

Crowd: "We are all with you, Rami! We are all with you, Rami!"

Interviewer: "That was you?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "Yes."

Interviewer: "And this is you now?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "Yes."

Interviewer: "There is a very great difference."

Rami 'Aleiq: "Only in the sense of external appearance. The essence is the same, but the form has changed tremendously. This incident... If I want to sum up the circumstances, this was one of the incidents that changed the course of my life, and changed my beliefs. I was subjected to a savage beating. If you look at the newspapers from that day, you will see what savage beatings we got.

"People from all sects and political affiliations were standing by me. We shattered the fetters of partisanship. There were members of different parties as well as independents, and we shattered the fetters of political pressures. We decided in advance that we would stick together even if we got beaten up. This was a great thing which caused many of my beliefs to come undone.

[...]

"This was somehow connected to the conspiracy theory. We felt that there was an existential threat to the Shiites. This theory still exists."

This Conspiracy Theory "Was The Product of a Certain Culture... The Idea That Your Salvation Depended on Preserving the Narrow [Shiite] Framework"

Interviewer: "Who taught you this conspiracy theory?"

Rami ‘Aleiq: "Nobody did. It was the product of a certain culture, which would instill in your mind the idea that your salvation depended on preserving the narrow [Shiite] framework. This makes you feel that the end absolutely justifies the means."

[...]

Interviewer: "After this, you secluded yourself for three days in an old church, you developed a desire to learn about Jesus and Christian teachings, and you performed Christian rituals. Were you baptized with holy water in accordance with Christian rituals?"

"I Was Baptized With Holy Water... [But] I Did Not Convert From Islam To Christianity. I Kept My Islamic Faith"

Rami 'Aleiq: "Yes. I was baptized with holy water. I did this out of my own free will, but just to be clear, I did not convert from Islam to Christianity. I kept my Islamic faith, and still do. I added the Christian way to my religious practice, because I distinguish between religion and faith. Faith has no identity, and the goal of religion is to reach faith, to reach God."

[...]

Interviewer: "Are you for or against sex before marriage?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "I'm for it."

Interviewer: "But all religions forbid this."

Rami 'Aleiq: "I think that the way this issue is viewed is subject to social development, and religions need to be aware of social developments."[...]

"We Would Have Sex With Prostitutes For 500 Syrian Lira per Half Hour... In Islam... A Girl Is Mature from the Age of Nine... I Was a Child, and So Was She... I Was Not Allowed to Touch Her" Without Contracting a Pleasure-Marriage

Interviewer: "[In your book,] you write: 'When I went on trips, I used to go secretly with several young friends to the Al-Marja neighborhood in Damascus. We would go to a hotel in order to have sex with prostitutes for 500 Syrian liras per half hour.' To justify this, you write: 'None of us would make physical contact with the girl he chose before signing a formal pleasure-marriage contract with her.' Isn't marriage meant to be out of pure intentions? Weren't you conning God this way?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "You're right. Pleasure-marriage means conning God, as well as ourselves. I am against this way of relating to sex and to women.

[...]

"This is something that still goes on. It is wrong."

Interviewer: "Back then you were an observant Shiite Muslim from Hizbullah, weren't you?"

Rami ‘Aleiq nods.

[...]

Interviewer: "How did you ever dare to sign a pleasure-marriage contract with a nine-year-old girl?"

Rami 'Aleiq: "In our culture, in order to be able to touch a girl or a woman, there must be a contract of pleasure-marriage."

[...]

Interviewer: "We are talking about a nine-year-old girl..."

Rami 'Aleiq: "Sure. In Islam, and this is what we were taught, a girl is mature from the age of nine. This is true with regard to Sunnis as well as Shiites. You are focusing on Shia Islam, because I am a Shiite, but according to religious jurisprudence, a girl is mature at the age of nine. This is where we got this idea. I was a child, and so was she, so I was not allowed to touch her, if I didn't form with her the kind of relation that permitted this."



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 9yearoldgirl; burqagirl; dhimmicrats; islam; muslims; nancypelosi; perverts; prostitutes; ramialeiq; sex; sexwithkids; syria; temporarymarriages; tm

1 posted on 03/03/2009 5:41:28 PM PST by SJackson
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I know that treatment of women is one of the first issues our delegation to Syria will raise.

2 posted on 03/03/2009 5:42:19 PM PST by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targeted…no guarantee…they’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: SJackson

Rami ‘Aleiq just following in Mohammed’s footsteps huh? what a perverted religion.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 5:47:06 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: SJackson

And somehow all this is lost on Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Joe Biden who have all made B-lines over to meet with Assad whenever they travel anywhere near the Middle East.

Oh, and Syria also launders the Iranian money which funds Hezbollah. So they got that going for them as well. (as if they needed any more points to prove that they are all going to Hell)


4 posted on 03/03/2009 5:47:13 PM PST by bpjam (Tell your Rep/Senator to Google: Marjorie Mezvinsky. Yes, it IS a threat.)
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To: SJackson; All

5 posted on 03/03/2009 5:47:37 PM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SJackson

they want this to come to America


6 posted on 03/03/2009 5:49:07 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: SJackson
The total population of Syria is about 20 million, so the figure of 10 million would be all the female population of the country, from newborn girls to decrepit old women almost as old as Helen Thomas.

Interesting insight into how they think.

7 posted on 03/03/2009 5:49:49 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: musicman

LOL!


8 posted on 03/03/2009 5:50:52 PM PST by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: SJackson

Well, feminazis . . . . . ????

Well, Code Pink . . . . . . ???

Where is the outrage!!????


9 posted on 03/03/2009 5:52:21 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: TADSLOS
Thanks!


10 posted on 03/03/2009 5:55:03 PM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: DustyMoment

That’s exactly right. This is why we know for certain these “women’s” groups are full of shizza.

If they cared one iota about any of these women, wouldn’t we have at least heard a tweeny weeney little peep from these leftists?


11 posted on 03/03/2009 6:12:59 PM PST by jdfromny (At what point are we officially "North Americans"?)
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To: SJackson

I don’t care what happens to these animals anymore. I don’t care that that their women are raped and killed, I don’t care about their children, I don’t care about their elderly.

I don’t care about them period.


12 posted on 03/03/2009 6:25:38 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: txnativegop

>>Rami ‘Aleiq just following in Mohammed’s footsteps huh? what a perverted religion.<<

Correction, Mohammedanism is NOT a religion, it is a cult of hate.


13 posted on 03/03/2009 6:30:22 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: NTHockey

You are right of course. My apologies for giving the cult more credit than it is due.


14 posted on 03/03/2009 6:34:24 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: SJackson
I know that treatment of women is one of the first issues our delegation to Syria will raise.

Uh huh....

15 posted on 03/03/2009 10:53:47 PM PST by happygrl (BORG: Barack 0bama Resistance Group: we will not be assimilated)
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To: SJackson
Rami 'Aleiq: "Sure. In Islam, and this is what we were taught, a girl is mature from the age of nine. This is true with regard to Sunnis as well as Shiites. You are focusing on Shia Islam, because I am a Shiite, but according to religious jurisprudence, a girl is mature at the age of nine. This is where we got this idea. I was a child, and so was she, so I was not allowed to touch her, if I didn't form with her the kind of relation that permitted this."

So basically Mohammed wasn't a pedophile because in Islam, girls aren't kids anymore after age 9. Aisha was a mature woman! It's like the "Islam doesn't condone the killing of innocents" thing (of course they don't, because in Islam, if you're not Islamic, you're not innocent).

Women in Islam - sexualize them when they're adolescents, kill them when they're grown.

I had never heard that honor killings are used to cover up theft of inheritance - didn't think they could look any more despicable for it, but now they do.

16 posted on 03/04/2009 5:29:36 AM PST by agrace
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To: All

RECAP:

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2037.htm

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http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=jihad&ID=SP226909

Special Dispatch - No. 2269
March 3, 2009
No. 2269

“Former Hizbullah Member Rami ‘Aleiq: We Used to Have Sex with Syrian Prostitutes after Signing Temporary Marriage Contracts With Them”

SNIPPET: “Interviewer: “Back then you were an observant Shiite Muslim from Hizbullah, weren’t you?”

Rami ‘Aleiq nods.

[...]

Interviewer: “How did you ever dare to sign a pleasure-marriage contract with a nine-year-old girl?”

Rami ‘Aleiq: “In our culture, in order to be able to touch a girl or a woman, there must be a contract of pleasure-marriage.”

[...]

Interviewer: “We are talking about a nine-year-old girl...”

Rami ‘Aleiq: “Sure. In Islam, and this is what we were taught, a girl is mature from the age of nine. This is true with regard to Sunnis as well as Shiites. You are focusing on Shia Islam, because I am a Shiite, but according to religious jurisprudence, a girl is mature at the age of nine. This is where we got this idea. I was a child, and so was she, so I was not allowed to touch her, if I didn’t form with her the kind of relation that permitted this.””


17 posted on 03/05/2009 7:33:13 PM PST by Cindy
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To: All

BLOG:

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2008/04/strange-sex-stories-from-the-muslim-world.html

“Strange Sex Stories from the Muslim World”

by Daniel Pipes
April 9, 2008
updated Wed, 4 Mar 2009


18 posted on 03/05/2009 7:34:43 PM PST by Cindy
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