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Hollister v Soetoro DISMISSED (US DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA - 3/5/09)
scribd ^ | 3/5/2009 | rxisd

Posted on 03/05/2009 1:52:30 PM PST by rxsid

ORDER For the reasons set forth in an accompanying memorandum, the defendants' motion to dismiss [#9] is granted, and John D. Hemenway is ordered to show cause within eleven days of the date of this order why he should not be sanctioned under Rule 11(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13033216/Dismissed


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: akaobama; berg; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; hollister; hollistervsoetoro; obama; philipberg; soetoro; usurper
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To: rxsid

The amazing irony here is that it was the “America’s vigilant citizenry” that actually exposed the problem with Barry’s fake short form COLB and that the fact that he had British Citizenship at birth and that his father was a British subject and never a U.S. Citizen. Yet, the MSM and the weak kneed judges who have buried this issue.


21 posted on 03/05/2009 2:11:39 PM PST by rxsid
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To: Big_Monkey

Oklahoma has a similar bill so that’s two states. We need a few more states for good measure to at least keep Obama to 1 term.


22 posted on 03/05/2009 2:14:35 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Mr. K

I imagine that the people really do. They just want to obscure the law.


23 posted on 03/05/2009 2:16:10 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: rxsid

It amazes me how judges, allegedly devoted to fair and just proceedings, just blow these cases out the door with no more basis than reading Doonesbury.
Then again, my X-wife’s lawyer became a local judge. And he was a real piece of puppy dung regardless of my personal bias in this case.
I know there are good/honest lawyers and judges cause I’ve dealt with several. But at some point in the political process some get just as compromised as the politicians we elect on good faith.


24 posted on 03/05/2009 2:31:06 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

It might be impossible to get the decision overturned but I’ll bet any sanctions could be successfully fought. The judge might have been a little too cute for his own good. Who twittered, who texted? Was any of this presented as evidence? After all, that’s what is sought - definitive proof AND THERE IS NONE IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE.


25 posted on 03/05/2009 2:32:29 PM PST by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
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To: rxsid

Roland Freisler smirks from hell.


26 posted on 03/05/2009 2:33:18 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: rxsid

Is anyone actually surprised?


27 posted on 03/05/2009 2:33:57 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Watch the silly Reps chase the Dead Fish!!!)
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To: bossmechanic
"Then again, my X-wife’s lawyer became a local judge.

I don't care what people say, the most corrupt, inside-baseball courts in this country are Family Courts - with divorce attorneys as the Captains and the Judges as the Mafia Dons.

28 posted on 03/05/2009 2:34:15 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: rxsid

THe less amazing “irony” is that he did NOT have British (or any other but American) citizenship at birth, as he was NOT in the custody of his absent father ; but in the custody of his MOTHER : a bona fide US Citizen.

The court was rather frank on this matter, but probably more restrained than it could have been.

There is not-and never was credible evidence Obama was anything other than a native-born US Citizen; however, it would appear this lack of evidence is now to be used as “proof of a conspiracy”.

It is one thing to lament over the loss of an election; and quite another to lose one’s common sense.


29 posted on 03/05/2009 2:36:14 PM PST by mrmeangenes
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To: mad_as_he$$
Thugs in robes conspire and exchange promises ex parte
with Obama before he became Pres_ _ent.
Most Americans now realize that SCOTS agreed to ignore his lack of "natural citizenship"
and the US Constitution (that they once "promised" to protect)
for secret assurances of pay raises, increased influence, and other favors.

"Death to our fathers' America"

30 posted on 03/05/2009 2:45:42 PM PST by Diogenesis ("All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities." - Mission)
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To: rxsid
Wow. What a surprise...not.
31 posted on 03/05/2009 2:46:18 PM PST by curiosity
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To: NonValueAdded
"Who twittered, who texted? Was any of this presented as evidence? After all, that’s what is sought - definitive proof AND THERE IS NONE IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE"

Absolutely correct. Who vetted? Where's the proof? And yes, this judge may have been a bit too much of a smart a$$ in his decision. You known this is going to the court of appeals. Let's see how they treat it.

32 posted on 03/05/2009 2:46:44 PM PST by rxsid
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To: mad_as_he$$

By the decision? No (not at this level). At the order put out by the judge? Definitely. Very unprofessional IMHO. The guy definitely sound more like a party hack than a federal (impartial) judge.


33 posted on 03/05/2009 2:48:33 PM PST by rxsid
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To: rxsid
That is a great quote. This judge indeed has a sharp tongue.

I hope he slaps a giant fine of Berg and his minions.

34 posted on 03/05/2009 2:51:57 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Mr. K
JUST WHO IN THE HELL DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR PROOF THAT A PRESIDENT IS ACTUALLY A CITIZEN IF NOT THE US CITIZENS???????????????????

You have the right to ask for it. You don't have the right to force Obama to produce it. Not through the court.

35 posted on 03/05/2009 2:52:13 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mrmeangenes
"THe less amazing “irony” is that he did NOT have British (or any other but American) citizenship at birth, as he was NOT in the custody of his absent father ; but in the custody of his MOTHER : a bona fide US Citizen"

Wrong. So very wrong. Barry even admits to both facts on his own campaign web site.

Quote: ". As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”"

Barry himself was a British Subject from the time of his birth (hospital, house, clinic of birth unknown) until Aug 4 1982.

36 posted on 03/05/2009 2:52:35 PM PST by rxsid
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To: mrmeangenes

But under the laws at the time, his mother, as a minor (17) was not able to confer citizenship to her son if he was not DEMONSTRABLY born in the United States.


37 posted on 03/05/2009 2:54:41 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: prismsinc
FLOOD THE DOCKETS MY FELLOW PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!

You first.

38 posted on 03/05/2009 2:57:38 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Big_Monkey
Regardless of where you stand on this issue, I believe this Missouri bill is a great idea.

Yeah, but unfortunately it was drafted by dimwits.

For candidates who are required by the Constitution of the United States to be natural born citizens, the secretary of state shall request an official copy of the candidate’s birth certificate. Other certifications, such as a certificate of live birth, shall not be accepted.


A "certificate of live birth" is PRECISELY what they WANT to accept. It was the "certification of live birth" that they didn't want accepted.


39 posted on 03/05/2009 2:58:39 PM PST by Michael Michael
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To: JoeA
But under the laws at the time, his mother, as a minor (17) was not able to confer citizenship to her son if he was not DEMONSTRABLY born in the United States.

His mother was born in November 1942. In August 1961 she would have been 18, almost 19. She would have been considered an adult.

40 posted on 03/05/2009 3:06:10 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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