Posted on 03/08/2009 11:03:33 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
Church shooting suspect has mental illness from Lyme disease By Joel Currier, Jeremy Kohler and Nicholas J.C. Pistor ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 03/09/2009 MARYVILLE — A man suspected of killing the Rev. Fred Winters during a church service in Maryville on Sunday morning had developed mental illness from a tick bite, his family has said. Police did not release the name of the suspect, who was seriously injured in a struggle with members of the congregation after the shooting of Winters at the First Baptist Church. But a source close to the case confirmed late Sunday that it is Terry Joe Sedlacek, 27, who was the subject of a Post-Dispatch story in August about how Lyme disease had attacked his brain.
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Don't give up if you don't find one right away!!!
That is what we did.
too bad it conveniently missed the part of the brain that came up with the idea to kill a pastor and effectively carry out the plan.When the brain is damaged this sort of psychosis is quite common really. Charles Whitman and Phineas Gage are good examples. That's also why people with dementia can be such pains in the butt.
well, Charles Whitman was punished; he was shot to death. I believe that if someone murders someone, he should be punished for the good of society and we shouldn’t try to understand them.
What if we discovered that Hitler or bin Laden had Lyme disease? Would that make them less evil?
Well, that’s it. There will be a popular, bipartisan putsch to make it a felony for anyone who has been physically ill to posses any firearm. For example, many things are capable of leaving your system susceptible to meningitis.
...one subgroup at a time, they’ll take away your Second Amendment rights. ...started with removing them from fathers based on nothing more than accusations (VAWA—passed by both political parties in Congress). Then...people adjudicated regarding mental illness.
well, Charles Whitman was punished; he was shot to death. I believe that if someone murders someone, he should be punished for the good of society and we shouldn’t try to understand them.Doesn't evil require mens rea/malice aforethought? For instance, it's not evil to kill someone in self defense. We also differentiate between manslaughter and murder.What if we discovered that Hitler or bin Laden had Lyme disease? Would that make them less evil?
The question becomes, did the killer actually know what he was doing? and what he was doing was immoral?
You should all remember that you won’t make your world safe and be immortal by way of pushing politicians to outlaw this and that for subgroups with problems. You’ll only be outlawing the very lives of your children or grandchildren and taking all of their freedoms away.
Although liberals will recite the inevitability of death, they display through their other speech, that they feel that they will live forever. We’re all going to die someday, and there’s nothing that we can do to stop that. It’s better to be free and to live with traditional risks than to throw your freedoms away by sacrificing the freedoms of your neighbors.
Hard to find anything political here. It’s just a horrid and bizarre tragedy.
* Lyme disease is a controversial illness. Two medical societies, the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) and the International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society (ILADS), have developed conflicting guidelines for the diagnosis and treatment of this tick-borne disease.
* Recent publications by IDSA members have impugned the scientific basis of the ILADS viewpoint, attributing that viewpoint to an ‘Axis of Evil’ involving physicians who treat improperly, ‘specialty laboratories’ that test inaccurately and the internet, which promotes ‘Lyme hysteria’.
* An investigation by the Connecticut Attorney General found that the IDSA suppressed scientific evidence and had significant conflicts of interest in developing its Lyme disease guidelines. An impartial scientific panel will be established to review the IDSA guidelines.
* The discredited ‘Axis of Evil’ comment affords an opportunity to examine the conflicts at the root of Lyme disease diagnosis and treatment.
(from Future Microbiol. 2008;3(6):621-624. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/586226 )
and
He and his colleagues also found that almost 47% of the chronic Lyme disease patients qualified for a diagnosis of fibromyalgia. “Sleep disturbance is common in most patients with fibromyalgia and this appeared to be the case in many of our chronic Lyme disease subjects,” Dr. Hassett mentioned. (from Arthritis Rheum 2008;59:1742-1749 http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/585949)
I think that your doctor when insisting on a short treatment just was following IDSA, however, in my view, the information available strongly suggests that it is important to have a a longer treatment.
The key issue here is:
The second link in the ‘Axis of Evil’ is the group of ‘specialty laboratories’ that provide ‘questionable’ testing for Lyme disease. Ironically it is the patented commercial Lyme tests that are questionable.[32,44] The two-tier Lyme test system endorsed by the IDSA requires a patented, commercially-available IgG screening immunoassay followed by a patented, commercially-available confirmatory western blot. Although this test system has a very high specificity of 99%, meaning that there are very few false positives, the system has a sensitivity ranging from 8-56% based on recent population studies, meaning that the algorithm has ‘coin-toss’ diagnostic utility at best and may miss as many as nine out of ten Lyme cases.[32-35,44] By contrast, antibody testing for HIV has a sensitivity of 99.5%, meaning that it misses only one in 200 HIV infections. The insensitive Lyme test system assures that many Lyme patients will go undiagnosed and untreated, a problem compounded by the IDSA mandate that diagnosis requires a positive commercial test result. Hence, the search for more sensitive testing offered by laboratories that have established superior assays for Lyme disease[36] is a direct response to the flawed commercial Lyme tests and the IDSA mandate that diagnosis rests on these flawed tests.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/586226
You should ask your doctor for a longer treatment and send him the above links. Borrelia burgdorferi is a bacteria, not a parasite, but it is correct that a co-infection with a parasite, not is uncommon. This might give Human granulocytic ehrlichiosis and/or even babesiosis.
The legally pertinent word is culpability.
He did it on porpoise. Whether the crab had a haddock or was simply feeling fishy doesn’t matter. He knew what he was doing, or he wouldn’t have done it. Whether he knew that it was wrong or illegal is beside the point.
Bah! Humbug! Stop asking people to make moral differentiations! Shoot ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out! Much more satisfying! (At least for people who find philosophy and ethics boring and prefer rules of the fundamentalist kind.)
I sometimes wonder if all these guys who talk so cut-and-dried about vengeance and “justice” could actually kill someone like Terry Sedlacek, obviously a man who’d suffered terribly from this disease for a decade, in cold blood. What is so attractive about the concept of justice without mercy?
Certainly certain retribution will have no deterrent effect on a person with true mental impairment. But who will get satisfaction out of the death of a truly mentally ill person who has committed murder and cannot understand the punishment?
Perhaps somebody with mental ‘issues’ themselves?
Human granulocytic ehrlichiosis has a new name Human granulocytic anaplasmosis as it is caused by the obligate intracellular bacteria Anaplasma phagocytophilum, http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol11no12/05-0898.htm
I don't care what a murderer's personal problems are. When there is zero element of self defense. When he murders someone outright. I say execution is in order for the crazy and the non-crazy
I can see extenuating circumstances for lesser crimes if you are nutty. But not for murder
I have a friend from my parish church, Catholic, whose husband, who sings in the choir, as I do also had to deal with the same disease also a few years back.
If a rabid dog killed someone was it evil?
Too bad the shooter didn’t die of lead poisoning during the crime...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/
and
http://www.amazon.com/Top-Lyme-Disease-Treatments-Conventional/dp/0976379716/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236594849&sr=8-1
I have seen many desparately ill people become functional human beings again. I once thought my own illness was Lyme and did a lot of research.
Dogs have the ability to reason? Who knew.
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