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Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing on California.
1 posted on 03/11/2009 4:13:40 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 03/11/2009 4:14:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing on California.

Boy. Ain't that the truth?!!

3 posted on 03/11/2009 4:16:15 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Once they eliminate all marriage in California, then all the children born there will be bastards.


4 posted on 03/11/2009 4:16:29 PM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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I was married before God and man. Man can do what he wants but in the end God and I know what commitment my husband and I made to one another in front of the Lord, and our community.
5 posted on 03/11/2009 4:18:30 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Big Love.
7 posted on 03/11/2009 4:19:34 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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Gee that will do wonders with official filings such as tax returns, wills, insurance, etc. Many may not recognize such a distinction.

Question, if I am married and then I become forced to be in a relationship, does that mean I am no longer legally married? So no divorce? No payment to the EX, because we are not married and we were not divorced.

8 posted on 03/11/2009 4:21:23 PM PDT by Lockbox
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Regardless if they succeed or fail, this is going to be funny. I’ll laugh if they fail, and I’ll laugh if they succeed.


9 posted on 03/11/2009 4:22:23 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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The article said — “SACRAMENTO, March 11, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - California same-sex “marriage” supporters are collecting signatures to support a ballot initiative that would remove civil marriage from California law entirely, as well as the provision codifying marriage as between a man and a woman.”

Ummm..., next, they are going to legally and officially label Homo Sapiens as the Genus “Gorilla”. That should solve a lot of stuff regarding sex...


10 posted on 03/11/2009 4:22:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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remove civil marriage from California law entirely

So how is that not taking rights away?

Brown is a complete idiot.

12 posted on 03/11/2009 4:40:35 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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They want SPECIAL rights not equal rights. They are as phony as Obama is on economics.
13 posted on 03/11/2009 4:43:56 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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California same-sex "marriage" supporters are collecting signatures to support a ballot initiative that would remove civil marriage from California law entirely

There is a seriously bright side to this (one that the queers won't recognize). Allow me to elucidate:

Right now, marriages performed in churches or marriages performed by clergy outside of a church setting are recognized by the state and a clergyman can sign the marriage license (at least in most places that I am aware of). That makes the clergyman an agent of the state.

That one fact provides a little crack in the door that the queers could use to take the Church (or some protestant denomination) to court to claim discrimination if the clergy refused to "marry" a homosexual couple. You might say "what about the first amendment?" The way the courts are starting to act, the bill of rights is only applicable if they feel like it.

If there is no legal concept of marriage any more, then the religious sacrament should have no significance in a court of law either way and therefore, you're not infringing upon a queer's rights if you refuse to provide a religious service for them (in accordance with applicable denominational rules).

As Catholics, there won't really be any difference to us one way or the other (in fact, it might be a little less confusing than now, in regards to irregular but valid marriages). The interesting part will be a question about Protestants, since they consider a marriage in front of a JP to be legitimate (as far as I know...correct me if I'm wrong). Will they accept a signed domestic contract in front of a notary public to be the same as marriage?

The bad news is that the queers are doing this to support their agenda. IMHO, there is a seriously silver lining to this dark cloud.

15 posted on 03/11/2009 4:49:56 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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When’s the next edition of the Newspeak dictionary coming out? I like to keep up with the words we’re not allowed to say anymore, like “husband”, “wife”, “marriage”....


16 posted on 03/11/2009 4:54:32 PM PDT by Argus (We've gone downtown to Clown Town, and that's where we'll be living from now on..)
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Judging by the raw statistics, I’d say that formal lifetime marriage is a dying deal anyway. More than half end in divorce, and a good percentage of the remaining one are less than blissful, according to my personal observations.

It almost takes being a stuntman to want to get married...


21 posted on 03/11/2009 5:45:36 PM PDT by qwertypie
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Yeah, like all the real married people will go along with this.


22 posted on 03/11/2009 5:50:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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If they can't destroy marriage by redefining its meaning, they want to take it away from us as revenge. Real brilliant move on the part of the Queerly Beloved!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

24 posted on 03/11/2009 6:14:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Will these damn queers ever stop?


25 posted on 03/11/2009 6:47:00 PM PDT by biff
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Since marriage is a sacrament of the Church in reality its not the states role to define it anyway.


26 posted on 03/11/2009 7:03:22 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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... eliminating all types of marriage was unlikely to gain broad public support and called it "fundamentally a dumb idea."

That has to the the understatement of the century.

27 posted on 03/11/2009 7:51:26 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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These Califags are out of control.


31 posted on 03/12/2009 12:34:07 AM PDT by libh8er
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33 posted on 03/12/2009 10:13:58 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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