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Byzantine era church discovered near Bet Shemesh
JERUSALEM POST ^ | 3-10-09

Posted on 03/11/2009 6:02:01 PM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 03/11/2009 6:02:02 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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2 posted on 03/11/2009 6:02:24 PM PDT by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


3 posted on 03/11/2009 6:03:27 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery (The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government.)
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To: SJackson

Vandalized? Gee who would do a thing like that to a historical Christian sight? Uh shoot, doggone if i would hazzard a guess...LOL.


4 posted on 03/11/2009 6:08:21 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SJackson
(sixth-seventh centuries CE )

Grrrrr!

5 posted on 03/11/2009 6:08:30 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: cardinal4

Christ Era


6 posted on 03/11/2009 6:10:18 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: cardinal4; nufsed

4200-4400 if you prefer.


7 posted on 03/11/2009 6:12:52 PM PDT by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Gee who would do a thing like that to a historical Christian sight?

Disgruntled youth.

8 posted on 03/11/2009 6:13:29 PM PDT by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

could it be the A-M-I-S-H?

You know, the Middle Eastern A-M-I-S-H?


9 posted on 03/11/2009 6:18:29 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: nufsed
Christ Era

Good one, no matter how hard they try, it won't work. BCE can be Before Christ's Era, anything to remind people of the One who divided time, Jesus Christ. They can't get around it.

10 posted on 03/11/2009 6:18:41 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

20 years from now some kid will ask. When did the CE start? How they going to answer that one?


11 posted on 03/11/2009 6:19:36 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: cardinal4

Same here...that would be AD not “common era”.

I do find a comfort in the fact that a farm had sprung up on the area, somehow people being fed reminds one of the way things should be.


12 posted on 03/11/2009 6:24:42 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: SJackson
I prefer AD.

But if that gags some folks, then I'd prefer they use the Jewish Calendar ... for honesty's sake.

The recent fad of attempting to deChristianize the Christian calendar is both stupid and dishonest.

13 posted on 03/11/2009 6:30:32 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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14 posted on 03/11/2009 6:31:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Must be the Joooos again!


15 posted on 03/11/2009 6:40:17 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: ArrogantBustard
I prefer AD...But if that gags some folks, then I'd prefer they use the Jewish Calendar ... for honesty's sake.

I generally do too, other than when someone is forcing the issue, the meaning of AD carries no significance to me and I don't consider it an expression of faith. I've noted those who complain the loudest, often have the least interest in the underlying concept. I'll note that there's been criticism here on FR both for using the Hebrew calendar (the JP does along with the Gregorian) and the hyphenated G-d spelling, since we're an English speaking country. To the extant that CE/BCE is used to "deny" Christianity, which I suspect isn't all that much, thats kind of silly.

16 posted on 03/12/2009 6:03:00 AM PDT by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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I, too, have seen criticism of "G-d". I don't agree with such criticism. I also don't agree with the necessity of leaving out the "o". It seems (to me) to border on pecksniffery, but in our profane and coarse culture complaint about "excessive reverence" seems (to me) to be misplaced.

I first noticed CE/BCE cropping up just over 20 years ago. At the time, it appeared to be motivated by anti-intellectualism (AD is Latin) and a vague desire to dechristianize the calendar. I note that international engineering journals (see, for example, any publication of the IEEE) use bote SI and SAE units. It seems to me that publications which appeal to both Jews and Christians could likewise use both the Gregorian and Hebrew calendars ... and then label the Gregorian year "AD" without offending anybody.

17 posted on 03/12/2009 6:42:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I first noticed CE/BCE cropping up just over 20 years ago. At the time, it appeared to be motivated by anti-intellectualism (AD is Latin) and a vague desire to dechristianize the calendar.

I’d probably attribute it to a desire to secularize the fields, which isn’t ani-Christian but has the same impact not just for Christianity but all religions. Though I noted I usually use AD, only when there might be some confusion. In this case I’d simply say 5th or 6th century, the time frame being obvious. For those very few who view it as a religious invocation, I’d view their non-use as a matter of respect, but I suspect that’s rare. But it’s a shame when CE/BCE becomes the issue, rather than the Church being excavated.

". I don't agree with such criticism. I also don't agree with the necessity of leaving out the "o". It seems (to me) to border on pecksniffery, but in our profane and coarse culture complaint about "excessive reverence" seems (to me) to be misplaced.

It’s usually misunderstood as a prohibition against writing the name, actually it’s a Commandment against destruction, citation below, my bold. Most Rabbi’s don’t apply the prohibition to the internet, but it’s not physically written to avoid the possibility of destruction of the document, thus the name. In serious publications, prayer book translations and such, you’ll find God, as you will in serious articles. In a casual note likely to be thrown out, G-d would be more appropriate, and some people use in in all instances, including electronic, given the possibility of printing content on paper. Even in that case, the transgression would be that of the reader/printer, not the author.

Deuteronomy 12:3-4

3. And you shall tear down their altars, smash their monuments, burn their asherim with fire, cut down the graven images of their gods, and destroy their name from that place
4. You shall not do so to the Lord, your God.

BTW, the Chapter/Verse notations are a largely Christian device, now used in most Jewish texts, including Hebrew.

18 posted on 03/12/2009 7:16:56 AM PDT by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: ArrogantBustard; SJackson
I first noticed CE/BCE cropping up just over 20 years ago. At the time, it appeared to be motivated by anti-intellectualism (AD is Latin) and a vague desire to dechristianize the calendar.

AD is Latin for year of the lord.

Anyone who is a student of Elohim's Holy Word knows
that YHvH who created the universe would be offended
to think that the first 4000 years was rejected.

The use of the term AD is an insult to the loving G-d
who created this time-space continuum for us.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
19 posted on 03/12/2009 9:13:26 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: XeniaSt
Thank you for expressing your personal opinion on matters.

I think you're wrong.

As usual.

Good Day.

20 posted on 03/12/2009 9:14:54 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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