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NAACP says bank giants steered blacks to bad loans
AP via Yahoo ^ | March 13, 2009 | Jesse Washington

Posted on 03/13/2009 6:08:44 AM PDT by kddid

The NAACP is accusing Wells Fargo and HSBC of forcing blacks into subprime mortgages while whites with identical qualifications got lower rates.

Class-action lawsuits will be filed against the banks Friday in federal court in Los Angeles, Austin Tighe, co-lead counsel for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, told The Associated Press.

Black homebuyers have been 3 1/2 times more likely to receive a subprime loan than white borrowers, and six times more likely to get a subprime rate when refinancing, Tighe said. Blacks still were disproportionately steered into subprime loans when their credit scores, income and down payment were equal to those of white homebuyers, he said. . . . Tighe estimated that "tens of thousands" of blacks had been forced into bad loans, but said it was difficult to gauge the scope of the problem because banks keep much of their internal data private. The lawsuits could force banks to divulge closely guarded information, such as how banks can determine the race of a loan applicant and how federal bailout funds are being spent. . .

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To: cowboyway
Will blacks ever lose their slave mentality and become self accountable?

Slavery has nothing to do with it. Follow the money.

61 posted on 03/13/2009 6:52:03 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: highnoon
she was buying the house for her son. she already owned the house next door.

somehow, all this is going to matter in the law suit and be considered relevant.

she never mentioned she had an attorney present. I’m guessing she didn't.

62 posted on 03/13/2009 6:54:30 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception asterisk administration)
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To: yankeedame

Human nature is to take the easiest path,

in the case of the people in question, that path is through victimhood.

When it stops working, they’ll find another path. All other paths beside “productive citizenship” should be made harder.


63 posted on 03/13/2009 6:56:09 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: kddid
Why hell yes they did.
You don't think they would do that to Whites do you?
And certainly not to Indians.
64 posted on 03/13/2009 6:56:17 AM PDT by DeaconRed (B.O. Stinks: Don't Blame Me--------I Voted for the Wrinkly Old White RINO- FUBO)
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To: kddid
Let's see, banks steered blacks to sub-prime loans, but gave whites loans and lower rates. So, whites got sub-sub-prime loans.

I wonder if ACORN is going to use their stimulus money to picket these banks again, it worked out so well the last time.

65 posted on 03/13/2009 6:57:01 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama is the American Allende.)
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To: estrogen

There is a Federal requirement on loan documents to state Sex, Marital Status, and Race. This was implemented to fulfill CRA rules....”

I stand corrected. It figures that the feds would want to keep tally on this, since they are so race conscious.

Having said that, this ‘lawyer’ would not have access to the loan documents. Or am I wrong on that too?

I loss any sympathy for the leftist black community after the nationwide reaction to the first cop trial in the Rodney King affair.

I was in Charlotte SC when the cops were cleared. A crazy black woman tried to stab me. I have nothing for the people, nothing.


66 posted on 03/13/2009 6:57:40 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: kddid

Really? Who made them do that? What entity is big enough and powerful enough to convince banks, huge banks, to loan money to people who could not pay it back? Mmmmmm. An evil superhero? The KKK? No, just the modern incarnate of evil on this world, government.


67 posted on 03/13/2009 7:00:05 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Doogle

Perhaps NAACP should contact Obama and ask him the details how he made it possible for blacks to be victimized back in the 90’s.


68 posted on 03/13/2009 7:00:18 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: kddid
Class-action lawsuits will be filed against the banks Friday,,,,,

Black homebuyers have been 3 1/2 times more likely to receive a subprime loan than white borrowers, and six times more likely to get a subprime rate when refinancing, Tighe said.

Blacks still were disproportionately steered into subprime loans when their credit scores, income and down payment were equal to those of white homebuyers, he said. . .

The NAACP is going to sue the banks because whites paid higher interest rates?

Yep, sounds like DESCRIMINATION to me!

Oh wait, this is an AP story. Accuracy rating 30% or less.

69 posted on 03/13/2009 7:02:08 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: kddid

>>>In 2004, she wanted to buy the house next door for her son to live in. She said the bank promised her a low fixed rate for a $40,000 loan, but at the closing, when reading the fine print, she noticed that the rate was actually 11 percent.

“I was blown away,” said Weaver, an NAACP member. “I didn’t have any choice (but to sign). ... It made me feel violated.”<<<

Yes, you did have a choice. You could have refused to sign. Did you read the paper work beforehand? Did you have copies of the applications where you supposedly locked in a low rate? Was the interest rate really in the “fine print”?

From what I recall from my two mortgage closings, the APR is in BOLD PRINT. I believe Federal law requires this.

“This is systematic, institutionalized racism,” Tighe said. “Once you take out factors relative to income and credit risk, the only difference between the borrowers is the color of their skin.”

But in the stats that supposedly “prove” blacks were “steered to subprime loans”, “factors relative to income and credit risk” have not been taken into account.

Unfortunately, on average blacks earn less money and even adjusted for income, have lower credit ratings. This is not the fault of the banks.

Also, there is an experience and dillegence factor involved.

Even a person with good income and credit qualifications might end up with a high interest rate loan, if they don’t do their homework.

The bank wants to charge EVERYONE as much as they can get away with and the borrower obviously wants to pay as little as possible.

I also have to wonder how many well qualified minorities ended up with sub-prime loans because, out a desire to give business to other minorities, trusted some disreputable minority lender or broker, who took advantage of them.

It would be interesting to find out what percentage of minorities stuck with “predatory loans” were sold those loans by minority “predators”. My guess is the percentage is very high.


70 posted on 03/13/2009 7:11:49 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: kddid
"Woe is me Kingfish... Whitey has done us in AGAIN."
71 posted on 03/13/2009 7:14:41 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: domenad
I can definitely believe Wells Fargo did this. I personally had them ask me to do some patently illegal things to qualify for a loan.

I spoke a couple of times with someone who writes mortgages (for "lower-income" people?) for Wells Fargo. I wonder what this person thinks now of all this.

72 posted on 03/13/2009 7:15:05 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: kddid

This has become one seriously sick society!!


73 posted on 03/13/2009 7:15:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: kddid

“Black homebuyers have been 3 1/2 times more likely to receive a subprime loan”

Blacks are over 3 1/2 times more likely to not have a job.


74 posted on 03/13/2009 7:17:06 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: Islander7
I would assume that if the records were subpoenaed that the whole file would be sent to the lawyer. I was involved once in a nasty divorce case of one of my clients who had hid money from his ex....they made me bring the whole file, tax returns, application etc. to court.

It doesn't sound to me that this ever got this far ...any excuse to claim victim-hood on their part is more like it.

Your experience in Charlotte (almost getting stabbed)reminds me of my son who got beat up at Ohio State by a group of minorities as he was walking down the street. He has nothing to do with them either.

75 posted on 03/13/2009 7:22:04 AM PDT by estrogen (time to fight)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

The NAACP has more worries than the subprime issue.. how about addressing the black single moms, black abortion rates, black prison population, black AIDs numbers, black school dropout rates, black literacy rates, black crime rates, etc...etc... Now we’re suppose to believe that somehow they didn’t f*ck up the black homeownership rates? Give me a break!


76 posted on 03/13/2009 7:23:55 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: exit82

What they don’t tell you is the loan officer who took advantage of a black was more than likely black. I’ve seen it time and time again.

A few years back ABC did a news story on blacks screwing over blacks. In car sales the black sales person typically charged the black buyer a few hundred dollars more per car than the same sales person charge a white buyer. But white sales people were even across the board regardless of color.


77 posted on 03/13/2009 7:28:50 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I Hate All Politicians, Republicans Included.)
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To: kddid; All
Among other things, I've been a mortgage broker for the past 15 years. I got a first hand look at this mortgage debacle from the inside. I have found that Blacks are a very cliquish group who tend to want to deal with other blacks. The problem is, like black on black crime, blacks are vicious with other blacks.

I'll never forget this one black lady who's business I was after. It was a small loan, a consolidation of a first mortgage currently at 7.5% and a second mortgage at 11%. I was trying to put her first and second together at 7% which was a good deal for her. Curiously, she took a deal from a black guy at 9%.

He convinced her that I was lying to her and that because her frist was 7.5 and her second was 11 that she had a 18.5 blended rate and that refinancing it to 9% was a great savings for her. Remember, I was offering her 7%.

It was a 70k dollar loan or so, and when she told me the aforegoing explanation I was so shocked I couldn't respond. I told her that she would no doubt be happy with the loan and I wished her good luck.

True story. He FORCED her into a bad loan. Bad bank!

78 posted on 03/13/2009 7:29:34 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: politicalmerc

Wow, that’s EVIL. And perpetrated on her by “one of her people”.

I guess it just goes to show you that ignorance is expensive.


79 posted on 03/13/2009 7:31:40 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: kddid

Please read these two 2008 newspaper stories from my old hometown:

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/01/the_foreclosure_crisis_dream_h.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/01/the_foreclosure_crisis_he_didn.html


80 posted on 03/13/2009 7:42:24 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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