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***Obama Wants YOU to Serve, HR 1388 The Give Act reform National Service Laws-VOTE on
The Whipping Post Republican Whip House.gov ^ | March 16, 2009, 9:43pm | Rep. Eric Cantor

Posted on 03/16/2009 8:19:53 PM PDT by joygrace

Tonight, Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor announced an update to the House Schedule for this week. H.R. 1388, The Give Act, is scheduled for Wednesday. Note: The title is “Anticipated Floor Schedule.”

The Whipping Post states, “On Wednesday, the House will meet at 10:00 a.m. for legislative business.

H.R. 1388 - Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (Subject to a Rule)

(Sponsored by Rep. McCarthy (NY) / Education and Labor Committee)


(Excerpt) Read more at republicanwhip.house.gov ...


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So what will all HR1388 cost? I contacted the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) today and they are still waiting for the Education and Labor Committee to release the Bill to them so they can crunch the numbers and finalize their work.

The Rule is once the Bill is voted on in Committee and it passes (in Committee) then they release it to CBO. It is pretty routine.

So, the Committee voted last Wednesday, 3/11/09 and the Bill passed 34-3. I assume they had some cost estimates in the Bill in order for them to vote in Committee. Right? So, what are they waiting for and why are they stalling to give it to the CBO.

I think they are waiting for the last possible second to give it to the CBO so it won't be available for Public consumption until last possible moment...the day before the House Vote. So another Bill the entire House won't fully read. Of all Bills not to read. Good grief.

As far as the actual cost of the program, I asked CBO how the costs compared to the 2007 version of The Give Act (H.R.2857). She said and I quote, “Oh, ..Oh..it will be generously more.”

She hoped to have the cost estimates available for public consumption tomorrow.

There were some estimates already in the blogosphere stating about $1 billion dollars appropriated for JUST 2010. Not confirmed by CBO yet but wow!

HR1388 is an outrageous waste of taxpayer’s money NOT to mention Unconstitutional.


1 posted on 03/16/2009 8:19:53 PM PDT by joygrace
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To: joygrace

Ping!


2 posted on 03/16/2009 8:21:32 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: joygrace

His people never experienced slavery (they were probably slavers).

So, what does he care about visiting slavery on the Nation?

His wife will probably hold the whip.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 8:22:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: joygrace

I feel like I am living in 1933.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 8:22:17 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: joygrace

FUBO.

I preemptively refuse.


5 posted on 03/16/2009 8:23:46 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: conservative cat

I feel like I’ve fallen through the looking glass. What in the H-E-Double-Toothpicks has happened to my country?


6 posted on 03/16/2009 8:24:05 PM PDT by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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To: joygrace
Barack’s Youth Corp.

Hail Obama!

7 posted on 03/16/2009 8:25:09 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: joygrace

In the US it takes a Black man to bring back slavery.


8 posted on 03/16/2009 8:26:35 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: DivaDelMar

A coup.

[gesundheit!]


9 posted on 03/16/2009 8:26:38 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: HollyB

Ping


10 posted on 03/16/2009 8:27:58 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: joygrace

Herr Obama, I offer you the Tampa Bay Turn Signal....also known as the Single Finger Salute.


11 posted on 03/16/2009 8:29:04 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Salamander

I would never serve this cabal of leftists.


12 posted on 03/16/2009 8:29:35 PM PDT by Anti-Kenyan
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To: joygrace

What’s disgusting is that FR is the only place I’m hearing any details about this.

Thanks for the update.


13 posted on 03/16/2009 8:29:39 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: joygrace; 3catsanadog; Allegra; autumnraine; Babsig; BlackElk; bootless; boxlunch; Brad's Gramma; ..
The HR 1388 Bill, “The Give” Act Ping List.

PING

Please FReepmail me to let me know if you want to be Added or Deleted from the "Ping List."

Thank you
14 posted on 03/16/2009 8:30:25 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: joygrace

So what part of the Constitution does this violate?


15 posted on 03/16/2009 8:30:31 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: wastedyears

16th Amendment, and certainly the letter and spirit of the Preamble.


16 posted on 03/16/2009 8:32:35 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: joygrace

Thanks for doing this.


17 posted on 03/16/2009 8:32:56 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Salamander

He can go to the Devil!


18 posted on 03/16/2009 8:33:13 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: joygrace
H.R. 1388
20 posted on 03/16/2009 8:35:30 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: joygrace
TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

We had better start calling our Congress critters tomorrow, and keep calling, and letting them know that this continued assault on the Constitution will not be tolerated.

He DUMMIES, You can't legislate or mandate charity, or volunteerism. It becomes no longer either, and is against the law.

21 posted on 03/16/2009 8:37:39 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: wastedyears
“So what part of the Constitution does this violated?”

Amendment XIII (13th)

Section 1 Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude,
except as a punishment for crime whereof the party
shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within
the United States, or any place subject to their
jurisdiction.

22 posted on 03/16/2009 8:37:48 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: joygrace

“What gives the Government the right to require individuals to give 3 years service under the guise of “volunteer” service? It is not explicit exactly who is required but I think they get the Bill passed and then iron out the details.

It talks about uniforms and “camps.” They revise the word “camps” and call it “campus.” There is language about Seniors and Community organizations.”


23 posted on 03/16/2009 8:39:35 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: joygrace

This is just another vehicle for funnelling money to ACORN.


24 posted on 03/16/2009 8:39:45 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: wastedyears

It would be easier to say what it didn’t violate.


25 posted on 03/16/2009 8:40:10 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I would happily serve in a group dedicated to tarring and feathering Democrats.


26 posted on 03/16/2009 8:41:30 PM PDT by Wooly
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To: unkus; All

Hello,

The Title of the thread is screwed up. Do you know how I can fix it?

I don’t know how to contact the Administrator. Thanks for your help.


27 posted on 03/16/2009 8:43:06 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

You mean “back to the Devil”, I assume?....:)


28 posted on 03/16/2009 8:43:26 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: Hoodat

No, not what part of the Constitution does it VIOLATE.

More accurately, what part of the Constitution ALLOWS it?

Remember the Tenth Amendment: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

If the Constitution doesn’t SPECIFICALLY give the feds the power, then they don’t have the power.


29 posted on 03/16/2009 8:43:59 PM PDT by DNME ("When small men cast long shadows, the sun is about to set.")
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To: joygrace

Indoctrinate the thugs on the taxpayer dime.


30 posted on 03/16/2009 8:44:51 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: freedumb2003

Hi-
I just sent you mail for your technical help if you can. Thank you.


31 posted on 03/16/2009 8:45:22 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: joygrace

FreepMail on its way with help (I hope) :)


32 posted on 03/16/2009 8:46:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: 444Flyer

>>Amendment XIII (13th)<<

Yeah, like a silly piece of paper like the USC has any bearing on the new fuhrer’s handlers’ decisions.

I mean, if they are going to once and for all dispatch the the 1st and 2nd to the same dust bin of history as the 9th and 10th, what make you think the 13th has any meaning?


33 posted on 03/16/2009 8:49:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003

You are my hero!!

Thank you. It really bugged me:)


34 posted on 03/16/2009 8:50:34 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: joygrace; Admin Moderator

You AM’s rock :)


35 posted on 03/16/2009 8:50:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: Hoodat

Thank you for the handy link.


36 posted on 03/16/2009 8:51:22 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: joygrace

‘tweren’t me :)

Good subject and something we all need to be very concerned about.


37 posted on 03/16/2009 8:51:56 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003; moder_ator

Thank you Admin Moderator for fixing the title of the thread. Apreciate it.

You are my hero too!!


38 posted on 03/16/2009 8:53:32 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: freedumb2003
Yes, which leaves “We The People” with no other alternative than to educate these libtards about the relevance, meaning and cemented God-given laws of the old USC.;)
39 posted on 03/16/2009 8:55:44 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: joygrace; Admin Moderator

Second try is the charm. Thank you for fixing the title of the Thread.


40 posted on 03/16/2009 8:57:31 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: azishot

My husband said he heard Mark Levine talking about it on his show today. He only heard the last few minutes so didn’t know what all was being said. Hopefully other talk radio shows will pick up on it and get it publicized before they are able to sneak this one through a vote in the House.


41 posted on 03/16/2009 8:57:54 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch

Glad to hear Levine was talking about it.

I wonder if it’ll be front page news tomorrow?


42 posted on 03/16/2009 9:01:23 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: joygrace

Cost is irrelevant. The Give Act is to enshrine creation of President Obortion’s “Gestapo and SS Corps” - a nationalist communist league of goons to remove liberties and conservative advocates from the nation... it is anti Liberty and anti Freedom. This Corps will be on the other side of the front line when the counter coup begins.


43 posted on 03/16/2009 9:09:31 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: All
11/05/08

“OBAMA WANTS FORCED LABOR FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127959/posts

________________________________________________

11/09/08

“OBAMA REQUIRES COMMUNITY SERVICE AND REMOVES HIS AGENDA FROM WEBSITE AFTER SCRUTINY”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2128883/posts

_________________________________________________

11/11/08

“RAHM EMANUEL, Obama’s Chief of Staff, ON MANDATORY CIVIL SERVICE PLAN”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2130387/posts

__________________________________________________

11/12/08

“RAHM EMANUEL EXPECTS ‘A LOT’ FROM CIVIL DEFENSE CORPS [Ben Smith podcast]”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2130604/posts

____________________________________________________

“Obama’s “UNIVERSAL” SERVICE PLAN
Training A Socialist Army Of World Servers”

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/1-service.htm

44 posted on 03/16/2009 9:13:13 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: FlyingEagle
Here is a preview of the new Freedom Corps. Get to know them well, since the new $2 billion ACORN subsidy in the porkulus package will pay them handsomely for life. And they will know YOU in no time:

Photobucket

45 posted on 03/16/2009 9:13:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

He is the devil...


46 posted on 03/16/2009 9:17:50 PM PDT by odin2008 (EVIL TRIUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: joygrace

Is there a place where we can get the specific parts that are the most offensive/ unconstitutional, etc. I want to call my congressman tomorrow and would like to steer them by paragraph numbers to the worst parts (the “mandatory volunteerism” part, forcing children & elderly to work, etc.) I just don’t have time to read through the entire thing again, although I’ve skimmed parts of it. Thanks for any help.


47 posted on 03/16/2009 9:17:58 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch
"Is there a place where we can get the specific parts that are the most offensive/ unconstitutional, etc.

I want to call my congressman tomorrow and would like to steer them by paragraph numbers to the worst parts (the “mandatory volunteerism” part, forcing children & elderly to work, etc.)


Oustanding. I would like to send you a summary post early AM if that is ok. I have typo-itis right now I am so tired, EST.I must step away from the keyboard.

I will send you something early by 6:30am -7:00AMEST. Would that work for you?

Thanks for making the calls.
48 posted on 03/16/2009 9:25:44 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: joygrace

H.R.1388
Title: To reauthorize and reform the national service laws.
Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] (introduced 3/9/2009) Cosponsors (25)
Latest Major Action: 3/11/2009 House committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Ordered to be Reported (Amended) by the Yeas and Nays: 34 - 3.SUMMARY AS OF:
3/9/2009—Introduced.

Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act or the GIVE Act - Amends the National and Community Service Act of 1990 (NSCA) and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973 (DVSA) to revise the programs under such Acts and reauthorize appropriations for such programs through FY2014.

Revises under NSCA: (1) the School-Based and Community-Based Service-Learning programs and Higher Education Innovative Programs for Community Service (Learn and Serve programs); (2) National Service Trust programs (AmeriCorps); (3) the National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC); and (4) the Investment for Quality and Innovation program.

Eliminates the current Community-Based Learn and Serve programs.

Establishes two new Learn and Serve programs: (1) Campuses of Service, which provides funds to institutions of higher education to develop or disseminate exemplary service-learning programs that assist their students’ pursuit of public service careers; and (2) Innovative Service-Learning Programs and Research, which funds community service-learning opportunities for elementary and secondary, college, and graduate students as well as research into service-learning.

Includes among eligible AmeriCorps programs: (1) an Education Corps to address unmet educational needs; (2) a Healthy Futures Corps to address unmet health needs; (3) a Clean Energy Corps to address unmet environmental needs; and (4) a Veterans Corps to address the unmet needs of veterans and their families.

Creates AmeriCorps Opportunity Corps programs that include certain existing programs and new programs to: (1) increase community access to technology; (2) engage citizens in public safety, health, and emergency preparedness services; (3) mentor youth; (4) reduce recidivism by re-engaging court-involved youth; and (5) support the needs of veterans or active duty service members and their families.

Establishes an Education Awards Only program authorizing the Corporation for National and Community Service (Corporation) to provide fixed-amount grants to programs that have approved national service positions, but no AmeriCorps funding.

Sets the National Service educational awards for full-time AmeriCorps, NCCC, and Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA) participants at a level equal to the maximum available Pell Grant available to students under the Higher Education Act of 1965.

Includes among needs to be met under the NCCC program, disaster relief, infrastructure improvement, environmental and energy conservation, and urban and rural development.

Requires states to develop comprehensive plans for volunteer and paid service by Baby Boomers and older adults.

Directs the Corporation to plan pilot programs to: (1) better target and serve displaced workers; and (2) establish a centralized electronic citizenship verification system which would allow the Corporation to share employment eligibility information with the Department of Education.

Authorizes the Corporation to treat September 11th annually as a National Day of Service and Remembrance.

Establishes within the Investment for Quality and Innovation program: (1) a ServeAmerica Fellowships program providing fellowships to individuals chosen by states to participate in service projects addressing certain areas of national need; (2) a Silver Scholarship Grant Program providing scholarships to individuals age 55 or older who complete at least 500 hours of service in a year in an area of national need; and (3) an Encore Fellowships program providing one-year fellowships to individuals age 55 or older who serve in areas of national need and receive training to transition to public service employment. Makes ServeAmerica fellows eligible for national service educational awards.

Authorizes the Corporation to provide grants to innovative and model service programs, including those for disadvantaged youth, youth under age 17, and potential recidivists.

Eliminates federal funding for the Points of Light Foundation.

Revises under DVSA: (1) the VISTA program; and (2) the Senior Corps, including the Retired and Senior Volunteer program (RSVP), the Foster Grandparent program, and the Senior Companion program.

Gives priority in VISTA participant selection to disadvantaged youth and retired adults of any profession.

Authorizes new VISTA grant programs of national significance that provide poor and rural communities with: (1) services reintegrating formerly incarcerated individuals into society; (2) financial literacy and planning; (3) before-school and after-school services; (4) community economic development initiatives; (5) assistance to veterans and their families; and (6) health and wellness services. Eliminates the VISTA Literacy Corps, University Year for VISTA, and Literacy Challenge Grant programs.

Raises the minimum and maximum stipend provided to VISTA participants.

Prioritizes RSVP projects in specified areas.

Makes anyone 55 years of age or older eligible as Senior Corps volunteers.

Provides, under the Senior Corps demonstration program, incentive matching grants to Senior Corps programs that exceed specified performance measures, enroll most of their volunteers in outcome-based service programs, and increase their enrollment of Baby Boomer volunteers.

Expresses the sense of the Congress that the number of AmeriCorps, VISTA, and NCCC participants should reach 250,000 by 2014.

Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act - Establishes a Congressional Commission on Civic Service to provide recommendations to Congress on improving opportunities for individuals to volunteer or perform national service.


49 posted on 03/16/2009 9:28:41 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: freedumb2003

“His wife will probably hold the whip.”

She holds everything else so whats the big deal?


50 posted on 03/16/2009 9:30:06 PM PDT by Polynikes
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