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White House Admits Cap-And-Trade Tax Costs Triple Their Official Estimate
FoxNews.com ^ | March 17th, 2009 | Phil Kerpen

Posted on 03/18/2009 5:12:44 AM PDT by Joiseydude

I’ve already explained here on the Forum how the cap-and-trade energy tax works, and would be the biggest tax increase in the history of the country. Now, amazingly, the White House is telling something closer to the truth about this tax hike, admitting that the official budget estimate of $646 billion over 8 years—already a mighty steep price to pay—is far, far lower than the real cost.

The deputy director of the White House National Economic Council, Jason Furman, is giving us a glimpse at the real number, telling Senate staff the energy tax scheme would actually raise “two-to-three times” the budget’s official $646 billion revenue estimate.

If Furman is right that the real tax hike would be two or three times the official budget estimate—and it’s likely still a lowball—that would mean the actual tax hike would run well into the trillions, roughly between $1.3 trillion and $1.9 trillion between fiscal years 2012 and 2019.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho2009; capandtrade; climatechange; democrats; economy; energy; globalwarming; liarsforscience; lping; obama; taxes; whitehouse
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1 posted on 03/18/2009 5:12:44 AM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

Socialist lying about policy tax implications?

I’m shocked!

Shocked that the truth leaked out so early....


2 posted on 03/18/2009 5:19:39 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: Joiseydude
Meanwhile Obama is attempting to get the dems to just slip this new trillion dollar tax into the next federal budget - rather than debate it as a separate bill
3 posted on 03/18/2009 5:19:52 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Joiseydude; ForGod'sSake; Horusra; Delacon; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 03/18/2009 5:20:37 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Most bad government results from too much government." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Joiseydude

Who Pays for Cap and Trade?

Hint: They were promised a tax cut during the Obama campaign.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123655590609066021.html


5 posted on 03/18/2009 5:25:16 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Joiseydude

This will finish the Country.

Pray for America


6 posted on 03/18/2009 5:29:10 AM PDT by bray (Join the Rebel Republican Movement!)
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To: Joiseydude
Jason Furman must have been giddy when he delivered this news of massive windfall tax revenues.
7 posted on 03/18/2009 5:33:10 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Joiseydude
Getting a sense of who Obama really is


8 posted on 03/18/2009 5:34:24 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: G Larry

Liberals, like dog crap you accidentally get on your shoes.


9 posted on 03/18/2009 5:38:32 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Joiseydude
If they are admitting Cap and Trade is going to cost triple their official estimate you can bet they know it is going to cost 10 times more.
10 posted on 03/18/2009 5:44:13 AM PDT by hflynn ( The One is really The Number Two)
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To: Joiseydude
Just remember, the gov't never gives you tax relief..........and that "republican", on your side, DICK Lugar, he planted 600 acres of Black Walnut trees, using farm subsidies and then registered them on the Chicago Carbon Exchange ( think he'll make some money? ).

Congress is in it for themselves.

11 posted on 03/18/2009 5:45:03 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Joiseydude

If the Republicans had any sense of history they would do to the DemocRATS what they did in the 90s to Newt and DeLay - use Dodd and Gaither as two faces of the corrupt party. They would tell everyone and they would run advertising via their 521 groups about “The same people who are running TARP and Paying Bonuses have their own problems. What is wrong with Obama that he chooses to let these guys run the bailout??” Put a face to corruption and bad policy. But not the President as the target...let the people figure that out.


12 posted on 03/18/2009 5:45:47 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Joiseydude

Cap and Trade is a scam Madoff would be proud of.


13 posted on 03/18/2009 5:53:04 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: hflynn

“If they are admitting Cap and Trade is going to cost triple their official estimate you can bet they know it is going to cost 10 times more.”

Well, their revenue models almost certainly don’t reflect the actual slowdown in economic activity that will result from this huge drag on the economy. They might wish for triple the yield, but my guess is that their original estimate will turn out to be far closer to the mark than they’d hoped.


14 posted on 03/18/2009 6:01:22 AM PDT by DrC
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A lot of small and micro business would have to close if their energy bill tripled....then you get a bigger % of zero. You would think even greedy government types could figure out you can’t taz thin air. But this seems to be lost on them.


15 posted on 03/18/2009 6:07:22 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant

More people would be driven from their homes as energy costs come close to exceeding their mortgage cost. Even if it didn’t, it would be the tipping point.

Nationalized energy anyone?


16 posted on 03/18/2009 6:26:15 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Joiseydude

Steven Chu, In an interview with The Post last year, said that the cost of electricity was “anomalously low” in the United States, that a cap-and-trade approach to limiting greenhouse gases “is an absolutely non-partisan issue,”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/11/AR2008121103380.html

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James Hansen wants Obama to just come out and admit that it is an energy tax that he wants to impose on Americans and stop beating around the bushes by calling it “cap and trade”. He says that Americans will “understand”: Some on Left Join Fight to Expose the Lie that is Cap and Trade
http://blog.heritage.org/2008/12/05/some-on-left-join-fight-to-expose-the-lie-that-is-cap-and-trade/

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Dr. Higgs reminds us as to just who is, and who is not qualified to speak on various scientific and economic matters:

Peer Review, Publication in Top Journals, Scientific Consensus, and So Forth
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1963
Robert Higgs

bttt


17 posted on 03/18/2009 9:34:24 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The brush fire's lit - the revolution has begun! Lead, follow, or get the hell outta the way!)
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18 posted on 03/18/2009 8:16:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

thanks, bfl


19 posted on 03/18/2009 8:19:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Joiseydude

Clueless in DC.

How many Ivy league elitists does it take to replace a lightbulb?


20 posted on 03/19/2009 4:41:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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