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Notre Dame: Promoting the Glamour of Evil - ALAN KEYES
America's Independent Party ^ | Friday, March 20, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 03/21/2009 8:39:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Loyal to Liberty

"Do you reject the glamour of evil, and refuse to be mastered by sin? (From the Roman Catholic Rite of Baptism)

Apparently the Catholic folks at Notre Dame University have no more respect for the Baptismal vows they renew every Easter than their invited Commencement Speaker this year has for the Presidential Oath of Office. At this moment in time, Barack Obama is the living incarnation of the glamour of evil. His smiley tones and non-threatening manner mask a studied commitment to the promotion of the most deadly form of evil in the world today- the cult of abortion centered on the ritual of child sacrifice. Obama has moved with impetuous determination to prove his claim to the mantle of High Priest of the Worldwide Abortion cult. With Executive orders he has shifted the resources of the U.S. government behind the global implementation of abortion. He has declared open season on embryonic human life. He has appointed enthusiastic political and judicial acolytes of this cult of death to high positions in the Executive and Judicial branches.

Even before these actions there was no rational basis for pretending to doubt his absolute commitment to the evil of abortion for its own sake. There can be no other explanation for his opposition, while an Illinois state Senator, to the bipartisan effort in the legislature to end the heinous practice of infanticide against innocent babies- delivered in the course of an abortion attempt; wrapped in soiled linens; and left on a cart to languish without medical care or any human comfort until they died. His only real explanation for refusing to support an end to this abominable practice was the cold-blooded logic that any interference with the mother's intention to kill the child would damage so-called abortion rights.

The Catholic Church teaches that abortion is objective evil of the most deadly spiritual kind. Obama embraces this evil for its own sake, without even the specious calculus of cost and benefit to cloak the true nature of his devotion. Except the Notre Dame University community consciously wishes to promote similar devotion in its students, there can be no valid explanation for their willingness to extend a platform to such a man. They cannot plead respect for his supposed High Office, unless they mean to suggest that it is consistent with Catholic teaching or the Lord's example to put such worldly reverence above the reverence for God, and the sacred laws commanding respect for innocent human life. Human honor cannot redeem that which God abhors. It cannot clear away the stain and curse that mars it. Vox Populi, Vox Dei is no maxim for the Body of Christ.

Nor can apologists at Notre Dame point to any positions he takes, or worldly programs he promises that can offset the sacrifice of spiritual integrity his unapologetic support for the cult of child sacrifice entails. It may be that he has gained the whole world's momentary adulation and tinsel honor. But as Christ spoke true, his soul is forfeit in the bargain, and the gain is as nothing compared to the cost.

Neither can they plead respect for the historic breakthrough his election supposedly represents. How can one who withdraws the protection of God's ordained equality of rights from innocent, helpless children claim to represent the triumph of justice over the very evils, born of greed and passion, unleashed by disregard for that equality? The vicious heart of selfish passion that perverted the souls of slave masters or self-worshiping lynch mobs, is the same heart offered in service to the Father of lies and evil in the abortion cult.

In the literal sense therefore, Barack Obama is the incarnation of what the Catholic Church identifies as the epitome of evil in the world today. What Notre Dame has done puts the stamp of Catholicity upon him, as if there is no absolute contradiction between what he advocates and represents and what can honorably be presented from platforms that benefit from the auspices of the Church. A Commencement speech represents a word spoken at the beginning of a new stage of life. In the literal sense it represents a principle for thought and action. Are we seriously to believe that some morally truthful argument can be made that justifies presenting Barack Obama in a Catholic context, as one who speaks for decent moral principle? It is sophomoric to suggest that any good thing he promises, promotes or even implements can compensate for his declared war upon the very principle of goodness, which is nowhere more clearly at stake than in the law of love that shrouds, protects and sanctifies our reverence for innocent human life. What Catholic theology makes good the rationalization that good works somehow supply the deficiency of a spirit and will that in the innocent person of the child, defile and abuse the very image of God Himself?

Given the evil he represents, Notre Dame's invitation to Obama is a slavish capitulation to the glamour of evil. Across America there are people of many different hues and denominations who devote themselves to the protection of innocent life, respect for the God-ordained family, and promotion of social justice in ways that conform with the principle of subsidiarity that respects human responsibility before God for the exercise of freedom His will for us makes possible. The world does not elevate them to platforms of power. Indeed it threatens them with punishment; ridicules and reviles their single-hearted devotion to Christ's example; relegates them to what it believes are the dingy fringes of respectability and esteem. Yet where is Christ to be found more than in those willing to bear with him the cross of human anguish on the long climb toward Calvary and the sacrifice that redeems mankind from the burden of sin? Rather than give an honorable platform to an evil man the world admires, a Catholic institution would do better to offer students a voice that speaks from the depths of this redemptive anguish, with a heart that sees past the glamour and power of evil, to the truth that will someday repel and triumph over it.

In an era when the Catholic Church in America still reels from the damaging effect of leaders who seem to connive at what gives scandal to the faithful, this scandalous gesture of admiration and respect toward the man who best represents the temporary triumph of evil over America's public life is a renewed scandal. As the first reeked of worldly fear and selfish licentiousness, this reeks of death and the prideful embrace of the doctrine that rejects the sovereignty of God in order to make man the master of life and death, right and wrong, hope and salvation. Catholics who abhor such scandal need to speak out. With one voice we should say to Notre Dame what Joshua said to the people of Israel: "If it does not please you to serve the Lord, decide today whom you will serve…" (Josue 24:15)

As a Catholic I earnestly pray to God, and ask of our Church leaders, that they make clear that this invitation cannot stand. If it stands, the scandalous lesson of subservience to human pride and power will lengthen the shadow of spiritual corruption that still haunts the Church. But if it is rebuked and withdrawn, every Catholic and Christian heart submissive to the sovereignty of God, as they bear witness to the affirmation of its truth, will be emboldened to speak and act with courage, even in the teeth of the whole world's scornful power.

This may also be an opportunity to begin the work that may someday turn Obama's heart from evil. Rather than confirm him in his present heedless service to objective evil, confront Him with the truth that there are Christian hearts that honor God above any man or human office. The seed planted by that confrontation will remind him of the true spirit of liberty. And it might someday grow up to impel him to repent of evil, who knows? With God, all things are possible.

For more current writing from Alan Keyes, please visit www.LoyaltoLiberty.com!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bhocommencements; catholicschools; evil; highereducation; keyes; notredame; obama
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1 posted on 03/21/2009 8:39:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

First it was vagina Monologues them the wacky professor slamming the POPE Now this Inviting the Leader of the Culture of Death!!


2 posted on 03/21/2009 8:45:49 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (The First Day of Spring had snow flurries... Damned global Warming!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I can’t believe that Notre Dame is having President Obama as their speaker...What on Earth??? I know a friend of mine who is graduating there this year...I will ask him what he thinks...lol. He predicted that John McCain would get the nomination way before others were thinking that...yes we are still friends...lol.


3 posted on 03/21/2009 8:56:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: EternalVigilance
Man your battle stations: Here's were you can go to fightt his thing. OBAMA WILL NOT SPEAK AT NOTRE DAME if we do our jobs.

To protest (and surely, to prevent) this travesty, go HERE, and HERE.

We're already on the march. Our excellent ally, the Cardinal Newman Society, has already launched a well-organized campaign to stop this rubbish from ever happening. HERE ARE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS. Get on task, my friends.

4 posted on 03/21/2009 8:56:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!" - Aragorn the King)
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To: napscoordinator; philly-d-kidder

See the above.


5 posted on 03/21/2009 8:57:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!" - Aragorn the King)
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To: EternalVigilance; Mrs. Don-o

Very good - if a bit long. imo, about half the length would have greater impact in this click fast and move on world :). Or maybe that’s just me.

A defining moment looms before the AmChurch and the Bishops.


6 posted on 03/21/2009 9:02:20 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m getting your links around everywhere I can. Thanks.


7 posted on 03/21/2009 9:02:46 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO = "Throw All The Bums Out". - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I see you are on task w/o pinging from me! Carry on!


8 posted on 03/21/2009 9:03:47 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: don-o

Yes it does.


9 posted on 03/21/2009 9:04:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO = "Throw All The Bums Out". - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Someone has to get to the alum donor’s. Get the list. Get them where it hurts. They are Catholic. Against Abortion. This will hurt them if they hear from the money crowd.


10 posted on 03/21/2009 9:07:57 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bttt


11 posted on 03/21/2009 9:21:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: philly-d-kidder
The rot at Notre Dame has been progressing for years. It will be interesting to see what the Catholic bishops will do--I'd keep my eye on Bishop D'Arcy, who is a relatively good bishop. Also, this could turn into a real show-down between the admin and the bishops. The bishops have spoken more concertedly than ever in recent months about the evils of abortion. I'll be curious to know what pressure they'll put on ND.

I must say, I'm not optimistic. Zero will probably speak there. There are many, many Pelosi-style Catholics out there, and they have a lot of power at ND. We need supernatural intervention. Our Lady, pray for us!!

12 posted on 03/21/2009 9:29:47 AM PDT by ishmac ("There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories." Lady Thatcher)
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To: EternalVigilance

Alan Keyes is absolutely right. I have already written to Bishop D’Arcy. I don’t know to what extent the bishop can control a university run by a religious order in his diocese, but I believe that a bishop can refuse to let a religious order operate in his diocese. At least, that’s the rationale used by our bishop for refusing conservative religious orders in his diocese.

Notre Dame always invites whoever is President at that time to give the address. However, never has there been a president who is so anti-life. This should not be happening.


13 posted on 03/21/2009 9:30:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: EternalVigilance

Keyes is absolutely right on this. As a Catholic, I can’t disagree with a word he says.


14 posted on 03/21/2009 9:53:53 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: napscoordinator

15 posted on 03/21/2009 9:59:03 AM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: 70th Division; Tax-chick; EternalVigilance; Kolokotronis
Here's a letter I just e-mailed to the President of Notre Dame and the other Big Bugs: --- oh, and Brother K, can you call out the Armies of the Orthodox?

To: president@nd.edu, pmccartan@jonesday.com, mfox@archchicago.org, catholiceducation@usccb.org, ndalumni@nd.edu

Brothers in Christ:

You are not among those who are unlettered, oblivious and unaware.

You know that Barack Obama voted three times --- once on the floor of the Illinois legislature, and twice in committee ----to deny medical assistance and even compassionate palliative care to living, struggling infants unfortunate enough to be born subsequent to an attempted abortion.

You know that Obama's HHS has just rescinded federal regulatory protection of conscience rights for individual and institutional healthcare providers.

You know that Barack Obama is by far the most radical advocate of abortion AND infanticide ever elected to political office in the USA --- both actions condemned by the Second Vatican Council as "abominable crimes."

And this infamous man has now been invited to receive an Honorary Degree in Law from Notre Dame University?

Holy Mother of God!

In a statement adopted in 2004, the USCCB declared, "The Catholic community and Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles."

"They should not be given rewards, honors, or platforms."

You would be utter fools to honor Barack Obama merely because he is is President of the United States, he is "historic," he is stylish and powerful, he is one of the great ones of the earth.

You are offending One far greater than he.

Sincerely,

[signed]

P.S. If you well and truly lack the testicular fortitude to do the right thing --- which would be to make a public statement rescinding Barack Obama's invitation due to the fact that he is morally unfit to be given a platform or to receive honors from any Catholic institution --- then you can at least work behind the scenes to "remind" Obama that he "unfortunately has a scheduling conflict" which will "unfortunately" make it impossible for him to attend.

And don't accept Vice President Biden as a substitute, a --- compared to Obama ---trifling, merely "moderately" murder-authorizing Catholic who has already justly been denied platforms, honors, and reception of Holy Communion by the Bishop of Scranton.

16 posted on 03/21/2009 10:12:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!" - Aragorn the King)
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To: livius

The priests there are subject to his discipline, IIRC, as far as their rights and responsibilities; I think they can only offer Mass with his approval.


17 posted on 03/21/2009 10:13:58 AM PDT by steve8714 (Drill for oil, drill for gas, drill to heat water in the Earth.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Perfect.


18 posted on 03/21/2009 10:20:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO = "Throw All The Bums Out". - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

Get Obama canceled. Contacts from another thread!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=28#28

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=87#87

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=101#101

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2210995/posts?page=102#102

Get to it, FReepers!


19 posted on 03/21/2009 10:31:31 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: EternalVigilance; NYer

When Keyes is on, he is really on.

Good piece.


20 posted on 03/21/2009 10:43:53 AM PDT by marron
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To: wagglebee

Ping!


21 posted on 03/21/2009 10:43:59 AM PDT by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps. 11:3)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Is he being offered an Honorary LAW Degree? I know that in the past, when the powers that be wanted to do this, and suggested it to the Law School, they said absolutely NOT! They suggested that the person in question be given an Honorary Degree in Theology, since it was the goofy folks in the Theology Dept. pushing the pro-abortion speaker.


22 posted on 03/21/2009 10:45:23 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: EternalVigilance

"Apparently the Catholic folks at Notre Dame University have no more respect for the Baptismal vows they renew every Easter than their invited Commencement Speaker this year has for the Presidential Oath of Office. At this moment in time, Barack Obama is the living incarnation of the glamour of evil."

Secret handshakes can arrange anything - even at Notre Dame.

23 posted on 03/21/2009 10:57:41 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SuziQ
From the Notre Dame website:

"President Barack Obama will be the principal speaker and the recipient of an honorary doctor of laws degree at the University of Notre Dame’s 164th University Commencement Ceremony at 2 p.m. May 17 (Sunday) in the Joyce Center on campus. "

I'm going to go there personally and throw blood if he speaks.

St. Thomas More, pray for us.

24 posted on 03/21/2009 11:02:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!" - Aragorn the King)
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To: EternalVigilance

Barry evil? Quite possibly.
Glamorous? Getting less and less so by the minute.


25 posted on 03/21/2009 11:04:40 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
By contrast, it looks like the Commencement Speaker at Ave Maria University this year is going to be Dr. Thomas Hilgers, the founder, with his wife, Sue, of the John Paul II Institute for the Study of Human Reproduction. Here's a description of the Institute from its website:

"The Pope Paul VI Institute is the only Catholic Institution of its type in the United States and perhaps the world that has dedicated its services to the development of morally and professionally acceptable reproductive health services. The Institute is nationally and internationally recognized for its major accomplishements, including the Creighton Model FertilityCare™ System (CrMS), the official language of a woman's health and fertility and the new women's health science, NaProTECHNOLOGY."

26 posted on 03/21/2009 11:11:54 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: EternalVigilance; Mrs. Don-o; ishmac; livius; Cicero; steve8714; SuziQ
At this moment in time, Barack Obama is the living incarnation of the glamour of evil.

The statement of the century.

I was not aware that Alan Keyes is a Catholic. Please give him this link, of which he may be unaware. This is how we will win back our country.

27 posted on 03/21/2009 12:03:05 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall ("I will not compromise on life" - what Steele should have said.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Yes, she converted the followers of the religions of human sacrifice and slavery in Latin America.

If not for Our Lady of Guadalupe, this hemisphere would be very much worse than it now is, and the illegals coming over the border would be a whole lot worse.


28 posted on 03/21/2009 12:20:48 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

On the website, you can read what Our Lady predicted in the late 1950s. IMO, this is what we’re heading into, right now.


29 posted on 03/21/2009 12:26:20 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall ("I will not compromise on life" - what Steele should have said.)
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To: ishmac

The cardinal new man society will be all over this... patrick reilly is in Rome beating up the Vatican to get some enforcers... After i posted I opened his newsletter and he praised Notre dame because they Founded a Pro Life club and stopped showing Vagina monologue this year then This the OBAMANATION!!! ughh we had recently Cokie Roberts get a media award from a local University Cabrini...


30 posted on 03/21/2009 12:47:56 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (The First Day of Spring had snow flurries... Damned global Warming!!)
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To: ishmac

“Bishop D’Arcy, who is a relatively good bishop.”

I guess there’s a few still out there.


31 posted on 03/21/2009 1:17:31 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: EternalVigilance

Bullseye. Ambassador Keyes hits it out of the park this time.


32 posted on 03/21/2009 1:26:13 PM PDT by Crolis (Kill your television!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Catholic Bump!


33 posted on 03/21/2009 1:27:57 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm going to go there personally and throw blood if he speaks.

I'll send you some gas money. FReepmail me the address if necessary! (I'll be immobile by then ;-).

34 posted on 03/21/2009 2:08:19 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: philly-d-kidder
They've been going back and forth on the V-monologues for years now. The tug-a-war over the dialogues is almost as much a part of event as the play itself. Oh well, at least they aren't staging it on Ash Wednesday, as they did a few years back...

I was encouraged this year by the more concerted pro-life stand taken by the bishops. They spoke with one voice this past campaign more than I have ever seen. The proposed speech at N.D. should be a real showdown, if there are those with the will to fight. It really needs to be, because the issues here are hardly ambiguous. The other bishops are probably waiting for Bsp D'Arcy to decide what he's going to do.

BTW, Bsp D'Arcy was one of the ones in Boston who tried to blow the whistle on the goings on there. He was exiled to Indiana for his trouble. I'm sure he's well aware of the consequences of not acting in time. One hopes they are burning the midnight oil in Fort Wayne these days trying to figure out a strategy. One hopes .... A visit by the Aborter-in-Chief would be a scandal for the ages at N.D., expecially after the bishops started to speak out about abortion last year. The provocation can't go unanswered.

35 posted on 03/21/2009 3:44:11 PM PDT by ishmac ("There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories." Lady Thatcher)
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To: Rennes Templar
Yes, Bsp D'Arcy actually tried to do something about the deplorable situation in Boston many years ago. They arranged to have him sent off to Indiana so he wouldn't make trouble. You've got to hope that somehow the bishop knows the consequences of not acting against N.D., which is under his diocesan jurisdiction. Problem is, you never know with these guys...

It will be a huge scandal if Zero speaks officially at Notre Dame.

36 posted on 03/21/2009 3:47:06 PM PDT by ishmac ("There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories." Lady Thatcher)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Whaddaya mean “even” at Notre Dame? ND has been slouching toward Gomorrah for some time now.

Hey ND fans........I don’t think “Our Lady” is pleased with you anymore. Maybe that explains your disastrous seasons the last few years!


37 posted on 03/21/2009 6:07:19 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom

Note the irony. The faculty and administration was infiltrated by anti-Catholics under Hesburgh’s presidency. They have followed Georgetown’s Land O’Lakes lead into oblivion. Imagine being a student graduating, actually having borrowed money and worked hard for the degree, and having the ceremony ruined and crapped on by the pro-abortionist Obama.


38 posted on 03/21/2009 6:50:55 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s a great and succinct letter. (I’m Jewish, not Catholic) Well done.


39 posted on 03/21/2009 10:31:21 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Thank you. My husband says God gave me adrenalin for a reason.:o)

But we've got to follow up with action. Please pray that the Almighty may raise up strong leaders for us, and that we footsoldiers can keep our focus and not just dissolve into hand-wringing and bitching. (Or being satisfied with having written a "really good letter.")

40 posted on 03/22/2009 8:00:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!" - Aragorn the King)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Sadly, I think a fair amount, if not most, of the students will be thrilled. TD Jesus will be replaced with a monument of the Obamessiah.


41 posted on 03/22/2009 4:23:27 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom
Sad.

There was a joke going around Georgetown when Clinton was president, during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, that things had gotten so bad that the faculty would probably award Bill Clinton an honorary Doctorate in Theology. It seemed like just a joke then. But only just. Notre Dame has a hit a new low with the plan to award Obama an honorary Law degree. It's so absurd.

42 posted on 03/22/2009 4:26:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I know — it is sad when the jokes become a reality.

Over four years ago, my youngest son was Baptized. We had the Baptism over Thanksgiving weekend, so my parents could visit and attend. USC always hosts ND the Saturday after Thanksgiving and it is a tradition for our family to make/serve turkey enchiladas for the game.

We invited our priest to join us for dinner and the game, but warned him we would be rooting for USC. He quipped, “That’s OK — USC is probably closer to Catholic anyway!”


43 posted on 03/22/2009 4:38:41 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom

I could never cheer for the Trojans, but I get the joke.
It’s sad what has happened to the colleges. It’s a real tragedy. A great loss for the Church and all of American society.


44 posted on 03/22/2009 4:42:07 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Oh — I don’t mind if you cheer for the Trojans........clearly, Our Lady is miffed, so she’s got the big guy on our side! ;-)


45 posted on 03/22/2009 4:44:08 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom

Here's a question: How does a Catholic priest say Mass at the altar in Sacred Heart Chapel, in the very presence of Christ, receiving the Blessed Sacrament, one minute and then walk back to his office and sign a piece of paper approving the award of an honorary Doctorate of Laws and providing a forum at Notre Dame's commencement for the most pro-abortion president in American history, a pro-abortion maniac who signed an executive order to fund abortions worldwide? How could that person possibly be a Catholic priest or any kind of Catholic and do that? How could this be explained apart from diabolical disorientation?

46 posted on 03/22/2009 4:56:14 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I really don’t understand it, but you have to know that Catholic priests all over the place supported Obama and other democrats. It is mind-boggling. Obama won the election at my sons’ Catholic High School, too — though most kids were screwing around. Ron Paul got nearly a quarter of the vote.


47 posted on 03/22/2009 5:04:30 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: Colonial Warrior

LOL!


48 posted on 03/22/2009 5:05:18 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom
There's something wrong with that. And his economics won't work either, so the trade off - economic social justice instead of the unborn - is a crock. There' something seriously wrong with ordained men falling for that. But then most of the Obama supporters are probably fruitcakes and heretics. So they're not even really Catholics anyway.
49 posted on 03/22/2009 5:10:54 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Yeah, I think there are 2 categories of clergy that voted for Obama. There are the typical leftist clergy — and there are frightening number of them in the Catholic Church — who don’t care about abortion much and think that social programs are the most important thing. They would have supported most any democrat. Then there are those who bought into the hype and wanted to feel good about voting for the first black president and are now seeing what they’ve done.

I’m not so concerned about those who were duped by Obama as those who embrace the liberal ideology regardless of the candidate.


50 posted on 03/22/2009 5:18:22 PM PDT by soccermom
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