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( Maryland ) Local Residents Win Automated Traffic Camera Fight
NewsChannel 8 ^ | 03/20/09

Posted on 03/22/2009 7:58:10 AM PDT by george76

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To: Rapscallion

“Impeding the flow of traffic” was against the law in my homestate too.


21 posted on 03/22/2009 8:39:22 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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I thought there were several states that ruled these tickets as illegal/unconstitutional anyway? Is it not so?

Illegal or unconstitutional they may be, but I have to come up with $40 by April 14 nonetheless.

22 posted on 03/22/2009 8:42:32 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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To: george76

It’s been reported that Chuck Schumer was spotted racing to get to the location before the camera is removed.


23 posted on 03/22/2009 8:47:41 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; bamahead

a Prince George’s County judge


24 posted on 03/22/2009 8:50:15 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
"This program is illegal, it is illicit and it is illegitimate because it's charging people for running red lights they have not run,"



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
25 posted on 03/22/2009 9:04:07 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ottbmare

The 6th Amendment to the United States Constitution as incorporated through the 14th Amendment to the Constitution states that “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to. . . be confronted with the witnesses against him. . .”

http://www.highwayrobbery.net/redlightcamsLawBriefFairfax.html


26 posted on 03/22/2009 9:06:08 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

These cases are being won by citizens all over the country.


28 posted on 03/22/2009 9:27:16 AM PDT by bgill
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To: george76

Clearly, Jefferson did not live in Montgomery County.


29 posted on 03/22/2009 9:35:06 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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To: sickoflibs

fyi


30 posted on 03/22/2009 9:38:16 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: george76

“...when he was snapped and slapped with a ticket for stopping too late.”

Kinda like when 60 Minutes starts inserting gay couples as typical homeowners getting scammed.

I thought the purpose of the cameras was to prevent red-light runners, who cause nasty accidents. The last time I checked, people who stop too late (i.e., a bit over the line), do not cause accidents.

I also noticed that red light cameras here in Houston flash much more frequently than before. Initially, they looked for runners, now the patrol “the line”. Anyone care to guess why? Hint: it’s not safety.


31 posted on 03/22/2009 9:53:24 AM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: rabscuttle385
Thank you. I live in Howard county where the cameras all stand out so you make sure you just dont run those(encourages me to run the others). It's just a revenue scheme because it only effects a few lights.

The big threat after democrat over-development and traffic is democrats are pushing for speed trap cameras again run by private companies, and would include roving speed trap cameras.

I will send this link to those I know who live in PG county

32 posted on 03/22/2009 10:11:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RINOs : "We stand for nothing but we're not as bad as Pelosi !")
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free

I’ve been stopped twice for going through a red light. Both times, the light changed as I neared the intersection, the roadway was wet and in that split second I decided it was safer to proceed then to lock up my breaks. Pulled over by the police, I explained that to the officer and BOTH times they let me go with a warning. THATS the importance of having a living , reasoning person in the loop.


33 posted on 03/22/2009 11:25:23 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: sickoflibs

I live in Howard County also. Traffic is getting pretty bad where development continues in areas where the county once said they wouldn’t allow any more development, because traffic was getting too heavy.

I cannot imagine how bad it is going to get when the buildings currently under construction on Fort Meade open. In the next five years, 8,000 more people are going to be using the same roads that are congested today.


34 posted on 03/22/2009 12:07:55 PM PDT by jimtorr
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I was here back when HC was republicans and NAACP was complaining about HC keeping crime out, and the BaltSun complained we dont welcome the poor and drug addicts and single Moms because they couldnt afford to live here. Alas, Bush and Clinton and big tax libs have taken over.

Robey was the downfall and he is promoting the speeding cameras after allowing unlimited development. Sadly, he was once a good police chief,


35 posted on 03/22/2009 12:15:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RINOs : "We stand for nothing but we're not as bad as Pelosi !")
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...... we dont welcome the poor and drug addicts and single Moms because they couldnt afford to live here.

The county bought the apartment complex in Columbia where I live six months ago. They have begun to work towards 40% low income residency, a process that the county claims will take 4 years. I'll wait and see what it does to the neighborhood before I panic and move, but I'm not expecting good things.

I work with a guy who grew up on the same street, and he no longer goes to visit friends who still live in the same condo complex, 100 yards down the street from where I live. Funny thing is, he's black, and the areas/situations that make me nervous also make him nervous.

The youngsters are not gangsters, but they are pretend gangsters. I'm concerned about what could happen to tip them over the edge.

36 posted on 03/22/2009 2:43:22 PM PDT by jimtorr
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This week, a Prince George's County judge threw out more than a dozen red-light tickets taken by a camera on Annapolis Road because the drivers never actually drove through the intersection. Now, transportation officials are demanding the cameras be removed.

They should have never been put up. What I can't understand is so-called conservatives who support this crap.
37 posted on 03/22/2009 3:01:13 PM PDT by arderkrag (Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
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Chief Rice it's about preventing accidents and pedestrian fatalities, not about making money as some have claimed.

Cough, cough, bullshit, cough!

Maryland "Freak State" PING!

38 posted on 03/22/2009 5:07:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: jimtorr

I live near Columbia but would never live in there. You pay to the Columbia association dues?
Columbia is the liberal base of HC now, promoting the section 8 housing across the county , Wild Lake, Oakland Mills huge druggie crime centers in a rich county. Normandy shopping center/town and Country in EC is bad too. Many years ago HC passed a anti-discrimination law against rejecting those with section 8 vouchers for rent. We also have homo anti-discrimination laws too.


39 posted on 03/22/2009 6:14:08 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RINOs : "We stand for nothing but we're not as bad as Pelosi !")
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free
When driving, one occasionally approaches an intersection just as the traffic light turns yellow. An instant decision must be made: STOP or GO. Sometimes we mis-calculate the timing, and don’t get though the intersection before the light turns red.

Odds are, you didn't actually "miscalculate" - the federal standards on yellow light timing based on approach speeds are often ignored by governments and private contractors conspiring to use the cameras as cash cows, and the yellow light time is deliberately shortened in order to create more violations.

Check out the National Motorists' Association - they're spearheading many fights against automated enforcement.

40 posted on 03/22/2009 10:50:31 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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