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Proposed easing of concealed-weapons law draws fire
Sacramento Bee ^ | Mar. 23, 2009 | Stan Oklobdzija

Posted on 03/23/2009 7:46:05 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot

What issue could unite a Republican lawmaker from Southern California and a 46-year-old lesbian from Natomas?

Guns, of course.

A bill introduced in the state Assembly last month aims to make it easier for Californians to obtain a concealed weapons permit.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; ccw; concealed
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To: Liberty Valance

That comment makes me furious!


21 posted on 03/23/2009 8:38:01 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: CholeraJoe

True. I used to be a cop and most brass in CA don’t want the “civilians” carrying.


22 posted on 03/23/2009 8:42:45 AM PDT by hoppity
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To: TPluth

My eyes must not be working properly today. I could have sworn I read that an easing on obtaining a CCW in CA is being proposed!!! Did the world just turn upside down?


23 posted on 03/23/2009 8:51:54 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: EGPWS
If the changes proposed by the bill were already in effect, even O.J. Simpson would have been eligible for a concealed weapons permit in California – prior to his recent felony conviction in Nevada, McGinness said.

What a BS argument, talk about a strawman. How about this a-hole; if Brown or Goldman had been armed OJ would be a dead attempted murderer. And no he would not be eligible since he had a prior history of domestic abuse which is a disqualifier.

24 posted on 03/23/2009 9:01:00 AM PDT by JrsyJack (ct)
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To: TPluth

My 82-year-old mom and 89-year-old stepdad both carry. Both aced their targeting tests two weeks ago when renewing. God bless both of them!!


25 posted on 03/23/2009 9:25:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Christian and armed)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
“So when are the local law enforcement officers going to be turning their firearms in?”

Right after Obumbum becomes an albino!

26 posted on 03/23/2009 9:39:59 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses)
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To: TPluth

Politics does create strange bedfellows.


27 posted on 03/23/2009 9:57:28 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: EGPWS
I can just imagine what O.J. could have done in the past if he were able to carry a pistol.

Having the gun and having the skill to use it well in a life or death situation are two different things. If OJ had a gun and his wife a gun as well as my ccw course she'd be a rich widow today. Think she might want that chance? Why don't we ask the victims in the California crime statistics database if they'd have liked to have had the option of carrying a concealed handgun under training before they'd been victimized? There's bound to be tons of assumption here, many of those victims (like Nicole Simpson) are deceased.

28 posted on 03/23/2009 9:58:50 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: hoppity

Chiefs and Sheriffs are not LEO’s, they are first and foremost politicans looking to further their own cause.


29 posted on 03/23/2009 10:07:12 AM PDT by gc4nra
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To: TPluth

There have been “shall issue” bills before and this one will most likely be DOA like the rest of them.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0351-0400/ab_357_bill_20090219_introduced.html

They have not struck out the good cause portion in the entirety of the bill and here always is the good moral character loop hole.

This bill is in its infancy and needs quite a bit more tightening up. It still is a glimmer of hope but I will believe it when I see its on governors desk


30 posted on 03/23/2009 10:17:19 AM PDT by Polynikes
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To: eclecticEel

That is the sign my wife carried during the 2nd Amendment Sisters counterprotest to the Million Mom March in 2000.

It was a big hit with the rank and file L.A.Co Sheriffs Deputies. and LAPD.


31 posted on 03/23/2009 10:17:40 AM PDT by gc4nra
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To: EGPWS

the juice might have killed his wife or some craziness like that. Its a good thing that he didn’t have a gun, who knows what would have happened


32 posted on 03/23/2009 10:21:44 AM PDT by Bastiat_Fan
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To: EGPWS
I can just imagine what O.J. could have done in the past if he were able to carry a pistol.

O.J. was able to carry a pistol. Granted, he would have been in violation of the law. I can only think of two reason why he didn't:

1) He didn't wish to.
2) He wanted to, but was deterred from doing so by his respect and/or fear of the law.

Given what we know of the man, I think we can cross #2 off the list. That only leaves #1.

33 posted on 03/23/2009 10:21:50 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: TPluth
But it's not like she's looking for a showdown, she said. Still, in an emergency, she said she'd like to know that her .45 is close at hand..."I have a fire extinguisher under my sink for the same reason," she said.

Nicely put. And I have a stock answer for the law enforcement administrators who seem chronically afraid of an armed public: "You're fired."

34 posted on 03/23/2009 10:26:46 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Polynikes

That is exactly what it does. It strikes the good cause clause, at least according to the link YOU posted.


35 posted on 03/23/2009 10:42:12 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: Liberty Valance

It’s time for a Heller lawsuit.


36 posted on 03/23/2009 10:45:03 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: ScottinVA

Why do they need a targeting test?


37 posted on 03/23/2009 10:46:05 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: TPluth

Read farther down. They strike the “good cause” initially in SEC. A but leave it in SEC B and C. Thats why I said its in its infancy and needs work


38 posted on 03/23/2009 10:51:08 AM PDT by Polynikes
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To: Liberty Valance

Correct. Personal protection is ALL there is.


39 posted on 03/23/2009 10:52:08 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: 2harddrive

Yes.

Permission is for privileges.


40 posted on 03/23/2009 10:52:49 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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