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Plan B Must Be Made Available to 17-Year-Olds
NYTimes ^ | 3/23/09 | NATASHA SINGER

Posted on 03/23/2009 6:40:08 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun

A federal judge on Monday ordered the Food and Drug Administration to make the Plan B morning-after birth control pill available without prescription to women as young as 17. The judge ruled the agency had improperly bowed to political pressure from the Bush Administration when it set 18 as the age limit in 2006. The F.D.A. has 30 days to comply with the order, in which the judge also urged the agency to consider removing all restrictions on over-the-counter sales of Plan B. The drug consists of two pills that prevent conception if taken within 72 hours of sexual intercourse. Some women’s health advocates hailed the decision. “It is a complete vindication of the argument that reproductive rights advocates have been making for years, that in the Bush administration it was politics, not science, driving decisions around women’s health,” said Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, a non-profit group that was one of the plaintiffs in the case against the F.D.A.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortifacient; abortion; fda; morningafterpill; planb; ruling; teens
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1 posted on 03/23/2009 6:40:09 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

These people are CRAZY!


2 posted on 03/23/2009 6:41:42 PM PDT by A. Morgan (Every night I pray that Rezko and Blago roll over on Obama!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2213061/posts


3 posted on 03/23/2009 6:43:52 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The F.D.A. has 30 days to comply with the order, in which the judge also urged the agency to consider removing all restrictions on over-the-counter sales of Plan B.

Why doesn't he just finish the job, and mandate that the government has to provide it for free to every girl with their school lunch, beginning at age 9.

And mandate that private schools, including Christian ones, have to do that, too, or be forcibly shutdown by National Guard troops, or burned to the ground a la Waco.

I'm sure that's required by the Constitution, somewhere /s.

4 posted on 03/23/2009 6:44:46 PM PDT by Campion
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To: anniegetyourgun

A judge ordered? When are we going to “just say no”.


5 posted on 03/23/2009 6:45:31 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: anniegetyourgun

Blatantly legislating from the bench.


6 posted on 03/23/2009 6:46:44 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I’m just a bubba trying to get the big picture.

If the active “in/hot” crowd is under 18-years and the sex act is considered statutory rape, isn’t the government doing something to aid and abet a crime?


7 posted on 03/23/2009 6:47:15 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: A. Morgan

They are not crazy, they are just simply evil. Abortion is the one super right as granted by the judges. They don’t even have to tell their parents, They can kill and no legal consequences will follow no matter what they do.

The Abortionists are totally above the law. They can hide serious crimes with impunity. They can kill a living baby and get away with it.

Our country has already gone past the point of no return. I doubt the U.S. can be saved, but then again all things are possible through Christ.


8 posted on 03/23/2009 6:48:20 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: pointsal

Don’t give us none of your silly logical questions.


9 posted on 03/23/2009 6:49:15 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
This is an outrage! The judge is talking here about 17-year-olds! Well, what about the 9-year-olds, the 8-year-olds, even the 2-year-olds??? Surely they too have a right to this drug!

CALL NARAL TODAY - DEMAND PRESIDENT OBAMA LIVE UP TO HIS PROMISE OF CONDOMS AND GOODIES FOR ALL THE PEOPLE

10 posted on 03/23/2009 6:53:00 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Who is going to stop the next out of control judge from saying 16 or 15 years old?


11 posted on 03/23/2009 6:53:10 PM PDT by A. Morgan (Every night I pray that Rezko and Blago roll over on Obama!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The drug consists of two pills that prevent conception if taken within 72 hours of sexual intercourse.

Liars.

It doesn't "prevent conception." It blocks implantation, thereby killing a tiny child, an already conceived person, at their earliest stages of development.

Morally no different than locking your three year-old in a closet until they die.

12 posted on 03/23/2009 6:53:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO = "Throw All The Bums Out". - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Does regular birth control require a prescription?


13 posted on 03/23/2009 6:54:04 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: madprof98

Meh - life goes on. If we raise our kids right we shouldn’t have to worry about this sort of nonsense.


14 posted on 03/23/2009 6:55:29 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: vivalaoink

Sarah Palin screwed up then


16 posted on 03/23/2009 7:00:26 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby

You can only lead a horse to water...


17 posted on 03/23/2009 7:01:21 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: vivalaoink
Meh - life goes on. If we raise our kids right we shouldn’t have to worry about this sort of nonsense.

Small minded comment

18 posted on 03/23/2009 7:01:43 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

WE THE PEOPLE have lost control of OUR government.


19 posted on 03/23/2009 7:03:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Mom always said, "Never just anyone whose name can't be spelled backwards." Like Soros.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

No - it’s the truth.


20 posted on 03/23/2009 7:04:30 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: vivalaoink

“Meh - life goes on. If we raise our kids right we shouldn’t have to worry about this sort of nonsense.”

No, we shouldn’t, but we must!

The harm this will cause to innumerable teens is unconscionable.

mrs


21 posted on 03/23/2009 7:07:03 PM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (Rush has given his first public address to the nation. What say ye now libs?)
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To: pointsal
If the active “in/hot” crowd is under 18-years and the sex act is considered statutory rape, isn’t the government doing something to aid and abet a crime?

Well, in California, if you're a parent, and you call the school to ask if your child is there, they are required to lie if said child is off getting an abortion... I think they've slipped past aiding and abetting and went straight to accessory before and after the fact.

22 posted on 03/23/2009 7:09:23 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: proudmilitarymrs

If parents are concerned about the drugs their minor children might be taking, shouldn’t the responsibility for that fall on the parents and not the federal government?

Kids can already buy every other OTC drug out there with no restrictions - and some of them can be lethal.


23 posted on 03/23/2009 7:09:36 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: Da Coyote

Plan B for the young and for old, Zyklon B.

We need to get this world’s population down to a “sustainable level.”

Think green, everyone.....SARC


24 posted on 03/23/2009 7:10:15 PM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: vivalaoink
Thoughts like that are what have brought us to where we are today.

The reality is you may instill all of the right things in your children but fighting the cultural pressures are all but impossible to battle. How do you keep your kids from being exposed to this, you can't

Lets face it, it is extremely difficult to raise children in an optimum environment and this kind of crap makes it all but impossible.

People who advocate this type of nonsense are doing it to corrupt your children, and by extension the future of this country, that's a fact.

25 posted on 03/23/2009 7:11:42 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The government stopped listening to the people on 1/22/09. And, since the DEMS have complete control, they see no reason to listen to the people. And their megaphone - the MSM - isn’t listening either.....see teaparty coverage.


26 posted on 03/23/2009 7:11:48 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I agree with you - it is extremely hard to raise one’s children in a morally bankrupt society. However, it’s not impossible.

I just wish more stock would be placed in the parents rather than the federal government to do the job.


27 posted on 03/23/2009 7:17:11 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: vivalaoink

Your kids have to live with all the kids you did not raise and cannot directly impact. That’s why Americans until recently considered it the business of government to promote the common good by protecting children from influences that adults might be mature enough to handle. Thanks to the insane leftist notion that even small children should have unlimited opportunities to do as they please, government no longer plays a protective role, and even self-described conservatives are supporting the trend.


28 posted on 03/23/2009 7:25:15 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: SonOfPyrodex

Seems like the graduates of xxxx (name-the-law-school) have the program figured out.


29 posted on 03/23/2009 7:26:23 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: vivalaoink
I just wish more stock would be placed in the parents rather than the federal government to do the job.

I couldn't agree more however it is impossible in today's climate to escape it.

You don't have enough time in the world nor should you have to take the time unlearn what your kid learned in school today. You can bet this pill will be available at the nurses office, the kid will be told where to get it, and you and I will pay for it. This is exactly where this leads to.

But God forbid your kid gets a headache

30 posted on 03/23/2009 7:26:48 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I have had about enough of this. 17 years do not need this period.


31 posted on 03/23/2009 7:42:35 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I read recently in the Yale Daily News that a recent survey of co-eds showed something like 30 - 35% of them have used “Plan B” at least once.

What sad lives they must live.


32 posted on 03/23/2009 7:46:26 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: freekitty

Our children can already walk into a Rite-Aid or CVS and buy a pack of condoms, so I fail to see the difference.

Either require a prescription for both or for none.


33 posted on 03/23/2009 7:47:53 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: EternalVigilance

So true. The pill does prevent conception because it blocks ovulation, but that is certainly not the case with Plan B. Conception may have already occurred in the Fallopian tube (as it normally does), and, if so, the embryo will have already gone through many cell divisions before it reaches the uterus. With Plan B, this developing embryo will never have a chance to be implanted - a de facto abortion.


34 posted on 03/23/2009 7:52:28 PM PDT by srmorton (Chose life!)
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To: anniegetyourgun; snugs

They’re pushing it down to get it in the schools... trust me.

Snugs, are your nurses giving out contraception, referrals for abortion or Plan B in schools?


35 posted on 03/23/2009 7:53:51 PM PDT by AliVeritas (And while the rest of the nation was still sleepin', they'll be bidding America goodbye.)
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To: anniegetyourgun; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

36 posted on 03/23/2009 7:54:01 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: vivalaoink

How about if parents take back their children.


37 posted on 03/23/2009 7:54:11 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

I am all for that, that is why I don’t care what the federal government dictate is regarding this issue.


38 posted on 03/23/2009 7:55:44 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: anniegetyourgun
...it was politics, not science, driving decisions around women’s health,” said Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights...

So are the lefties back to thinking their ideas are scientific again?

Karl Marx and the early socialists believed their ideas were the true science, but then when socialism was proven to be a failure by the concrete facts of impoverishment and genocide, the left embraced postmodernism which said there is no such thing as objective reality, meaning that socialism could only be judged by its intentions, thus sparing it the condemnation of factual evaluation. But now I guess they figure most people have forgotten history and so they're back to claiming their ideas as science again.

Of course the real question here is, why doesn't science also say the morning after pill should be available to 16 years olds?

Another question, kind of off topic, is, if leftists are so scientific, why do they totally abandon science when they regard the markets? It's amazing how detached and technical they are when it comes to, say, nipping a human life in the bud. But by golly they can sure get fired up over corporate profits or the minimum wage! That's when they totally drop the science routine and become flaming moralizers who are totally impervious to any technical argument about the subtle workings of the markets.

39 posted on 03/23/2009 7:58:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: vivalaoink

“...Meh - life goes on. If we raise our kids right we shouldn’t have to worry about this sort of nonsense...”

I posted the below reply on a typically lib website that ran this same article - and really attracted a lot of negative comments!


To all those who think randomly giving the morning after pill to young girls is a great ruling: you should become more responsible parents, vs. letting your young daughters sleep around and passing responsibility to a toxic pill to deal with the consequences of your failures.

Have a little more respect for your children and yourself instead of simply promoting pills, spaying, neutering, aborting as the answer.


40 posted on 03/23/2009 8:02:36 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Who is randomly giving out Plan B pills to our daughters? It is one thing for someone to just give them out unsolicited, and it is quite another thing for our daughters to go out and get them on their own.

If they choose the second option, obviously we failed somewhere along the lines.

Just like our kids can currently buy (legally) all of the supplies and ingredients needed to make methamphetamine....just because it is legal does not mean they are going to do it.


41 posted on 03/23/2009 8:05:38 PM PDT by vivalaoink
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To: A. Morgan

They’re CRAZY and they are EVIL. They have for a long time infested the judiciary and legislatures at all levels and now they claim executive authority. Their power is growing by the minute and is confronted only by pitiful hand wringing and maddening calls for restraint. Unless the good people rise up quickly and with steely determination, mankind is doomed to an unstoppable slide into the abyss.


42 posted on 03/23/2009 8:20:01 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Plan B, approved by a supposedly conservative and supposedly pro-life R administration.


43 posted on 03/23/2009 8:23:18 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

I thought it was approved by the FDA - with lots of holdovers from the Clinton administration?


44 posted on 03/23/2009 8:54:34 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Yardstick

It’s “scientific” to put the killing directly into the hands of the woman/girl.


45 posted on 03/23/2009 8:56:38 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: vivalaoink

You’ve contradicted yourself 10 times in this post. Do you even know what you’re saying here?

mrs


46 posted on 03/24/2009 4:44:48 AM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (Rush has given his first public address to the nation. What say ye now libs?)
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To: anniegetyourgun

What bothers me is ‘no-prescription’ angle of this— Plan B contains a pretty big dose of hormones. Say you start using this stuff at 17— most teenagers aren’t exactly the most responsible creatures on the planet, so I’m assuming usage of Plan B would be elevated during the late teenage/young adult years, especially if you didn’t have to go to a doctor to get it. Add this on top of ‘normal’ hormonal birth control, and by the time you’re thirty or so, you’ve pumped a ridiculous amount of chemicals into your system. I’m no biologist, but that just doesn’t sound like a good thing.


47 posted on 03/24/2009 6:49:11 AM PDT by CatInTheBox (I've got... the Knack.)
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To: pointsal

If the person were the victim of a brutal beating (assault) would you deny medical care on the grounds that it would abet the crime?


48 posted on 03/24/2009 8:44:32 AM PDT by MissMillie
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To: MissMillie

if the aid were given in order to cover up the crime, yes, it would be abetting the crime. That’s the point.

Whether it’s an assault or a statutory rape, it should be reported to authorities, not covered up and forgotten about, sending the victim back to her abuser.


49 posted on 03/24/2009 8:48:11 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: MrB

In many states, the age of consent is less than 18, right?


50 posted on 03/24/2009 8:57:35 AM PDT by MissMillie
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