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Police deaths give leverage to toughen gun laws
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/24/9 | Chip Johnson

Posted on 03/24/2009 7:49:10 AM PDT by SmithL

If history repeats itself, the fatal shootings of four Oakland police officers on Saturday afternoon will become the next benchmark in the national debate on a federal law to ban assault weapons.

If there is a grain of hope to be gathered from a loss so tragic, it's that last weekend's horrific events will help end the debate on an unresolved policy issue that has resulted in thousands of deaths and helped sustain veritable demilitarized zones in some of our nation's largest cities.

In Oakland, a city already struggling with high crime and gun violence, the deaths of two officers gunned down with an AK-47 qualify city officials to lend their voices to any national debate on the issue.

While the tragedy in Oakland lacks the scale of the shootings at Virginia Tech in 2007 and Columbine High School nearly a decade ago, the deaths of four officers in a single incident is a significant event that sends shock waves across the nation.

The use of the deadly weapons - which can fire hundreds of rounds per minute - has become an all-too-familiar feature in the gun violence being played out.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; lovellemixon; oakland; opd
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Why wasn't it illegal for Lovelle Mixon to have an AK-47?

Oh wait, it was!

1 posted on 03/24/2009 7:49:10 AM PDT by SmithL
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Police deaths give reason to toughen parole policies.


2 posted on 03/24/2009 7:50:05 AM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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That was one evil mean gun to do that. I think they should hang it in public. After a fair trial though.


3 posted on 03/24/2009 7:51:23 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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Police deaths give leverage to toughen gun laws

Why would it do that? Unless those working to "toughen" the law are insane?

Ooohhhhh! Riiiiiight!!!

4 posted on 03/24/2009 7:52:26 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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Nothing like exploiting a tragedy to further your own political agenda. Never let a good crisis go to waste, so what if you have to dance on the grave of 4 cops?


5 posted on 03/24/2009 7:52:42 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: Tarpon

THAT is more like it!


6 posted on 03/24/2009 7:52:46 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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Even though you are a law abiding gun owner, life will be HELL for you and criminals will continue to get gun ILLEGALLY and shoot cops. At some point they will disarm law abiding citizens. Liberal logic .... .


7 posted on 03/24/2009 7:53:10 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Because the existing gun laws were so well enforced and managed in this instance!
8 posted on 03/24/2009 7:53:18 AM PDT by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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YOU said it best:

“Nothing like exploiting a tragedy to further your own political agenda. Never let a good crisis go to waste, so what if you have to dance on the grave of 4 cops?”


9 posted on 03/24/2009 7:53:46 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SmithL

What are the crime statistics in this country?

What would the crime rates be if there were no blacks or illegals in this country?

Aren’t most shootings and murders caused by black and Hispanic perps?

What are the facts? Not the causes or all the multi-cultural and politically “correct” baloney and philosophy, but the facts of who actually commits the crimes.


10 posted on 03/24/2009 7:54:38 AM PDT by garyhope (It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
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To: thecabal

Where I come from, this activity is called “bathing in the blood of the victims”.

It is considered unsavory by decent, law-abiding, folks; but is perfectly acceptable among the anti-gun crowd.


11 posted on 03/24/2009 7:55:50 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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Why wasn't it illegal for Lovelle Mixon to have an AK-47?

Why wasn't it illegal for Lovelle Mixon to shoot people?

Oh wait, it was!

12 posted on 03/24/2009 7:55:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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This perp was already convicted of a gun crime. He needed to be in jail longer. They don’t enforce the gun crime laws we have now..as evidenced by the fact that this guy was on the loose.


13 posted on 03/24/2009 7:55:59 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: SmithL

The Left wants guns banned. The hard work for us is to discover the reason the left wants guns banned.

Someone out there, help me solve this very “complex” issue.


14 posted on 03/24/2009 7:56:01 AM PDT by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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there’s always some simpleton who has to have a misguided cause in life.


15 posted on 03/24/2009 7:56:49 AM PDT by Birch T. Barlow (Go Mariners! Certain 2009 AL West champions!)
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Yep, take all guns away from law abiding citizens so the public will be safe. Makes perfect sense.

[[[ shakes head - rolls eyes ]]]


16 posted on 03/24/2009 7:57:25 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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Gun Facts.

Myth: The supply of guns is a danger to law enforcement

Fact: The courts kill cops by letting felons out of prison early. Of police murdered in the line of duty:

  1. 70% are killed by criminals with prior arrest records.
  2. 53% of these criminals have prior convictions.
  3. 22% are on probation when the officer is killed.

Myth: Assault weapons are a serious problem in the U.S.

Fact: In 1994, before the Federal "assault weapons ban", you were eleven (11) times more likely to be beaten to death than to be killed by an “assault weapon”. In the first year since the ban was lifted, murders declined 3.6%, and violent crime 1.7%.

Fact: Nationally, “assault weapons” were used in 1.4% of crimes involving firearms and 0.25% of all violent crime before the enactment of any national or state “assault weapons” ban. In many major urban areas (San Antonio, Mobile, Nashville, etc.) and some entire states (Maryland, New Jersey, etc.) the rate is less than 0.1%.

Fact: Even weapons misclassified as “assault weapons” (common in the former Federal and California "assault weapons" confiscations) are used in less than 1% of all homicides.

17 posted on 03/24/2009 7:57:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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Smith - are you suggesting that when they try to round up everyones guns that those in criminal possession of firearms will just ignore the law as usual...noooo...

Just liberals ignoring facts and making up their own again. I mean just look at how safe London is now that firearms are illegal. And DC what a shining example of how well gun bans work; the fact that they have one of the consistently highest murder rates is just coincidental


18 posted on 03/24/2009 7:57:36 AM PDT by texrepub76
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I guess it is too much to ask that the liberal prosecutors and judges should have made sure this VIOLENT criminal was behind bars to begin with!

WHY WAS HE OUT OF PRISON?!


19 posted on 03/24/2009 7:57:41 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Yes, Gorbachev is better than Obama. At least Gorbachev admitted he was a Communist)
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To: SmithL

20 posted on 03/24/2009 7:57:51 AM PDT by pabianice
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