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George Tiller Testifies, Says State Medical Board OKd Him Doing Illegal Abortions
Life News ^
| 3/25/09
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 3/25/2009, 6:27:15 PM by wagglebee
Wichita, KS (LifeNews.com) -- Taking the stand in his own defense, embattled late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller defended himself on state charges of 19 counts of doing illegal late-term abortions. Tiller said during the trial that the head of the state medical board authorized him to use a second physician who worked for him.
Tiller has been charged with 19 counts of violating a state law that requires an independent physician to sign off on the legitimacy of late-term abortions.
He relied on fellow abortion practitioner Kristen Neuhaus, an employee of his, to provide the okay for the abortions instead of using an independent physician who could assess whether they were medically necessary.
Attorneys for Tiller hinted on the first day of the trial that this would be the tactic they would use in an attempt to get him off the hook.
Tiller attorney Dan Monnat told Sedgwick County District Judge Clark Owens and the six members of the jury that Tiller was acting under the approval of Larry Buening, the former director of the medical board, the Kansas Board of Healing Arts.
Today, Tiller pointed to his 1999 conversations with Buening and claimed he said it would be alright for Neuhaus to sign off on the abortions in a potential violation of state law. "He said, 'Why don't you use Kris Neuhaus and that will take care of all of your problems,'" Tiller testified.
Tiller claimed Neuhaus had no financial interest in his abortion business even though she essentially worked for him as a part-time employee and earned no money through other means. She had problems with her medical license and did not earn a living practicing medicine elsewhere.
Tiller told the jury Wednesday that Tiller has been a victim of alleged harassment from pro-life advocates and his attorneys showed the jury photos of the results of a bomb that went off at his abortion center 25 years ago.
The motive behind bringing up old incidents and events is apparently designed to sway the jury and to look at the charges askance by considering them political motivated.
During his opening statement, Assistant Attorney General Barry Disney said Neuhaus was an employee of Tiller's and that she would not be the impartial doctor the law calls for to validate the abortions.
http://www.lifenews.com/state3974.html
Disney did manage to establish through Neuhaus' testimony that she was recruited by Tiller, who consulted with her about the amount of her fee. He then set up a situation where she could only see patients at his request, at times of his determination, in an environment that he controlled.
When she did the consultations by telephone, patients paid Tiller's staff, and they held the cash for Neuhaus until the next time she came to the abortion center. The form letter that she signed, referring patients to Tiller for late-term abortions was drafted by Tiller's attorneys and provided to her by Tiller's staff.
Disney also established that patients were not free to choose their own second physician, and that Tiller controlled the fact that each patient saw Neuhaus, and only her.
More sparks flew when Disney attempted to question Neuhaus about her discipline with the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts. Tiller's side strenuously objected, but the judge allowed the questioning.
Disney reminded the jury that any reasons or excuses Monnat would give them for why Tiller broke the law simply point to the fact that Tiller broke the law.
"The more we hear in court, the more shady these people appear. Neuhaus didn't do herself any favors with her surly attitude. She appeared to be a hyper-paranoid person who lives in constant fear of criminal prosecution," said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; georgetiller; moralabsolutes; prolife
Today, Tiller pointed to his 1999 conversations with Buening and claimed he said it would be alright for Neuhaus to sign off on the abortions in a potential violation of state law. "He said, 'Why don't you use Kris Neuhaus and that will take care of all of your problems,'" Tiller testified. Based on abortion in Kansas, this is probably true.
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posted on
3/25/2009, 6:28:02 PM
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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posted on
3/25/2009, 6:28:30 PM
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
"[State Prosecuting Attorney]Disney reminded the jury that any reasons or excuses Monnat would give them for why Tiller broke the law simply point to the fact that Tiller broke the law."
"Today, Tiller pointed to his 1999 conversations with Buening and claimed he said it would be alright for Neuhaus to sign off on the abortions in a potential violation of state law. "He said, 'Why don't you use Kris Neuhaus and that will take care of all of your problems,'" Tiller testified."
First, as you said, it probably IS true that he said it. However, contrary to what Tiller contends it's not like that makes it any less illegal. In fact, as the man from the Pro-Life group points out, it just makes them look even WORSE. A conversation like that could only really have come up if Tiller was complaining how the law caused him "problems".
All of this reminds me of a passage from Proverbs (paraphrased):
Don't put in with thieves who say "we'll share the booty" because they lay in wait for themselves, and their snares will capture their own feet...
(I'm having trouble finding the exact verse on BibleGateway.com as I remember the "olde English" of the verse, or it's paraphrased too much in my memory, and it's not coming up with a search... If anyone on the thread knows what verse I'm recalling please let me know... I'll be scanning and looking through to find it myself later this afternoon regardless... :) ).
In trying to lay the blame elsewhere Tiller has been caught in his OWN SNARE! Praise God that men like him eventually get justice - if not here on Earth then where it REALLY counts... before GOD.
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3/25/2009, 6:48:46 PM
by
LibertyRocks
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To: wagglebee
When this monster finally gets thrown into the fires of hades, they’re going to burn so bright it will be visible halfway across the universe.
To: wagglebee
Why Kansas?
“Because it’s cheaper to buy Kansas than California”
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posted on
3/25/2009, 7:14:27 PM
by
MrB
(irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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posted on
3/25/2009, 7:16:42 PM
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
3/25/2009, 7:19:33 PM
by
MrB
(irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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posted on
3/25/2009, 11:37:36 PM
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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posted on
3/25/2009, 11:41:09 PM
by
narses
(http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
To: wagglebee
Tiller said during the trial that the head of the state medical board authorized him to use a second physician who worked for him. That's not a defense. It's an admission of guilt to the original charge, and conspiracy.
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posted on
3/26/2009, 12:04:49 AM
by
BykrBayb
(May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
To: BykrBayb
Yes it is, and spreading the blame helps us.
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posted on
3/26/2009, 12:05:52 AM
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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