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An Amazing Fossil Find
WND ^ | yesterday | Farah

Posted on 03/27/2009 4:23:03 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy

2009 Scientists are baffled by the latest fossil find.

It's an octopus they claim is 95 million years old.

And, guess what? It looks just like a modern-day octopus – complete with eight legs, rows of suckers and even traces of ink.

In all that time, it seems, the octopus hasn't evolved – not one tiny bit.

What's rare about this find is that octopuses are almost all muscle and skin. When an octopus dies, it quickly decays and liquefies into the oozy slime from which evolutionary scientists claim life began. After just a few days, there's nothing left at all of a dead octopus. No octopus fossil has ever been found before – especially not one 95 million years old, explained Dirk Fuchs of Freie University Berlin, the lead author of the study.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; bloodbath; darwindebunked; darwindebunkedagain; debunkingdarwin; flamefestival; godsgravesglyphs; nut; unnaturallyselective
FYI, in a previous article Farah claims that there are still pterodactyls in Africa.


1 posted on 03/27/2009 4:23:03 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy
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To: Ron Jeremy
In all that time, it seems, the octopus hasn't evolved – not one tiny bit.

Don't confuse phenotype with genotype.

2 posted on 03/27/2009 4:27:10 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Ron Jeremy

That was no octopus. It’s Helen Thomas hiding from conservatives and the Joosz.


3 posted on 03/27/2009 4:27:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: GodGunsGuts; Fichori

Ping-Pong


4 posted on 03/27/2009 4:29:06 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Ron Jeremy
FYI, in a previous article Farah claims that there are still pterodactyls in Africa.

Got a link?

5 posted on 03/27/2009 4:30:41 PM PDT by donna (Basic mistake: America provides freedom from COERCION, not freedom from WANT.)
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To: Mikey_1962

1) posted several times
2) Octopus fossils aren’t all that rare.
3) Octopus fossils aren’t really fossils, they’re more of a chemical image in the rock.


6 posted on 03/27/2009 4:32:06 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

A fossil is simply evidence of a former living thing. Even a footprint is a form of fossil: a “trace fossil.” Fossils do not have to be bones or other skeletal matter. They can be molds (cavities left when the actual organic remains decayed). They can be minerals deposited by chemical changes in the sediment as the organism decayed. And cephalopods (the group which includes octopi) have been around for about 500 million years, so a 95 million-year-old fossil which resembles living species is not shocking. The horseshoe crab has been around for about 200 million years with hardly any visible change.


7 posted on 03/27/2009 4:39:19 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Ron Jeremy
It's an octopus they claim is 95 million years old.

I'll accept.

It looks just like a modern-day octopus...

Accepted.

In all that time, it seems, the octopus hasn't evolved – not one tiny bit.

Not accepted. Note the "it seems" escape hatch. "Not one tiny bit" is totally unsupportable.

Not proof of anything. Statements like this damage the credibility of an issue, for all they may attract more adherents to the issue.

And maybe that's the point... to attract the most adherents?

Call me unresolved on this issue -- especially as my questions have or came close to costing me FReeper friends from both sides (everything was Created vs. there never was a "Creation").

Stuff like this just muddies the waters.

8 posted on 03/27/2009 4:41:54 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: donna

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41977

I just bought a 10 mega pixel camera with a 20x optical zoom - it runs on 4 AA batteries so why don’t pictures of those dinosaurs exist?


9 posted on 03/27/2009 4:46:25 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Ron Jeremy
In all that time, it seems, the octopus hasn't evolved – not one tiny bit.

Did Farah map the fossil's genome?
10 posted on 03/27/2009 4:48:06 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Ron Jeremy

Wonder if the calamari came with marinara sauce back then.


11 posted on 03/27/2009 4:48:41 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Ars longa, Vita brevis)
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To: DevNet

Do you have a picture of me?


12 posted on 03/27/2009 4:49:58 PM PDT by donna (Basic mistake: America provides freedom from COERCION, not freedom from WANT.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Cockroaches havent evolved much either, along with many other animals. Darwin is still a failed theory for other reasons, though.


13 posted on 03/27/2009 4:50:56 PM PDT by dddanonymous
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To: Ron Jeremy

"I am NOT an octopus"

14 posted on 03/27/2009 4:57:04 PM PDT by P.O.E. ("Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness")
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To: hellbender
After 35 years of paleontology, thanks much for your illuminating comment.

Sheesh.

15 posted on 03/27/2009 5:00:16 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: donna
Got a link?

yep:

The evolutionists insist the dinosaurs lived millions and millions of years ago and became extinct long before man walked the planet. I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe there is a shred of scientific evidence to suggest it. I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I'm not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct! Think of all the world's legends about dragons. Look at those images. What were those folks seeing? They were clearly seeing dinosaurs. You can see them etched in cave drawings. You can see them in ancient literature. You can see them described in the Bible. You can see them in virtually every culture in every corner of the world. Did the human race have a collective common nightmare? Or did these people actually see dragons? I believe they saw dragons – what we now call dinosaurs. Furthermore, many of the dinosaur fossils discovered in various parts of the world were found right along human footprints and remains. How did that happen? And what about the not-so-unusual sightings of contemporary sea monsters? Some of them have actually been captured. There are also countless contemporary sightings of what appear to be pterodactyls in Asia and Africa.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41977

16 posted on 03/27/2009 5:01:27 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: dddanonymous

Horseshoe crabs are like 400 million years old. Creepy critters, but survivors.


17 posted on 03/27/2009 5:01:29 PM PDT by P.O.E. ("Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness")
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To: DevNet

First picture 1826, http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/View_from_the_Window_at_Le_Gras,_Joseph_Nic%C3%A9phore_Ni%C3%A9pce.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:View_from_the_Window_at_Le_Gras,_Joseph_Nic%25C3%25A9phore_Ni%25C3%25A9pce.jpg&h=1805&w=2597&sz=1874&tbnid=bsW6yjjvSLKlUM::&tbnh=104&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DNi%25C3%25A9pce%2Bcreates%2Ba%2Bpermanent%2Bimage&hl=en&usg=__EaAw9oyZvm_T29B27di1QP-qcHE=&ei=7GvNSZXCGKCstgfCt7DmCQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=1


18 posted on 03/27/2009 5:16:12 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: donna

No - the fact that you ask that question sort of shows you exist.


19 posted on 03/27/2009 5:18:29 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Great thing about freedom of speech, you can make a complete ass out of ones self at any time, just like the writer did.


20 posted on 03/27/2009 5:18:40 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: Ron Jeremy

there may be..have you searched ALL of Africa?


21 posted on 03/27/2009 5:36:46 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: mysterio

From the article, it seems like they found a real carcass.
Or did they find the imprint of a carcass...how could they
know about the anatomy unless all of it was imprinted in
the surrounding rock? How did they determine there was
ink? Wouldn’t that decay also?
Not very good information from the WND report, will need to
read real article in journal.

P.S. with epigenetics a new field, mapping the genome
may not tell as much as one would want in terms of
evolutionary relationships. Not to mention, there are
normally occuring mutations which don’t change a phenotype,
but just seemingly hang around, so mapping the genome
doesn’t necessarily tell you where on the evolutionary
tree(lawn?) the ex-organism lies(no pun intended).


22 posted on 03/27/2009 5:37:26 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Yeah, I read it from DevNet’s link.

If you can prove Farah wrong, you should do so, LOL.


23 posted on 03/27/2009 5:56:19 PM PDT by donna (Basic mistake: America provides freedom from COERCION, not freedom from WANT.)
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To: P.O.E.
Horseshoe crabs are like 400 million years old. Creepy critters, but survivors.

We used to swim with them in Jamaica Bay (below JFK Airport). That's fun once you realize they don't bite or sting.

24 posted on 03/27/2009 6:26:08 PM PDT by decimon
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Rare fossil octopuses found: 95 million-year-old
msnbc | March. 18, 2009
Posted on 03/22/2009 9:35:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2212066/posts


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