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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Lets set some facts straight here.

If you go any windmill energy expert and ask how much of the grid do you want to share with wind energy....he’ll be very quiet for a moment...and usually say no more than twenty percent maximum. The problem is that whatever amount you choose...you have to have an alternate “vehicle” standing by to produce the same amount of energy...whether coal, hydro, or nuclear. Wind energy, you see, is not dependable.

If you ask about the “Germany incident”....the wind energy guy will likely want to avoid the discussion. This episode from just a couple of years ago....triggered a massive grid outage. They had always anticipated “X” amount of power from the tens of thousands of windmills in the country. A sudden wind storm came through the country...and in a matter of minutes...they surged dramatically. The grid couldn’t handle it....so it shut down rapidly. It took hours across the whole country to bring the grid back up.

Now, lets focus on solar energy. At best presently....even if you gave me all of the available acreage in Arizona that was free to use (state and federal property)...and I put out solar collection devices across this entire range...it probably would only satisfy the grid needs of five to ten percent of the entire country.

What you see here by the environmentalists...is an effort to band-aid up the entire grid. Every single house has a solar panel or two. Every community has five or six giant wind-mills. They want to make this into a magic formula....which is precise. Fundamentally....things just don’t work this way.


4 posted on 03/29/2009 4:39:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

So many faults with the alternatives but no one talks about that. How about the need of all new transmission lines to deliver the new energy to our homes? Alternative energy can’t use the existing transmission systems. We have to build new ones.


5 posted on 03/29/2009 4:52:46 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: pepsionice

Wind energy, you see, is not dependable.

...and worse, wind energy is not efficient, IIRC current thought, rates it at about 30% efficiency.

So you spend the same or more on infrastructure, to support the production, but you get at best 30% of what coal, oil, gas, nuclear etc, are capable of producing all the time instead of the vagaries of the wind at any particular time of day or night.

No one in their right mind would put money into such a system, unless it was mandated by government, of course government can mandate all it wants too, but where will they get the money to carry out the mandate? Out of your pocket and mine, and those pockets should be shut to such insanity.


9 posted on 03/29/2009 5:23:40 AM PDT by wita
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