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Evolutionists, Atheists Admit Defeat in Texas
ICR ^ | April 3, 2009 | Christine Dao

Posted on 04/03/2009 8:22:15 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts

This Creationist nonsense will be the death of the conservative movement :(


21 posted on 04/03/2009 8:48:49 AM PDT by RightwayConservative
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To: editor-surveyor
The evidence stands strongly against evolution, but discussing that evidence in class has been forbidden.

I have spent a lot more time in biology class than most people around here. I don't know what you are talking about.

22 posted on 04/03/2009 8:49:09 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: MrB

I believe it’s called the scientific method.


23 posted on 04/03/2009 8:49:12 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 04/03/2009 8:49:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Yamfries

Please stay on topic.

Welcome to Free Republic.


25 posted on 04/03/2009 8:50:21 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: RazorsEdge

Excellent post. Thanks for taking the time to write it.


26 posted on 04/03/2009 8:50:47 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: freespirited

I’ve asked about this generalized “evidence” before and have not seen a scientific refutation.


27 posted on 04/03/2009 8:51:38 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: FormerRep

No, seriously, show me where an alternative is REQUIRED before you can offer any criticism of an existing theory.

That’s preposterous.


28 posted on 04/03/2009 8:52:10 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: FormerRep; Adammon
Clearly, this is the part that made the evos do a poopy:

"including examining all sides of scientific evidence..."

29 posted on 04/03/2009 8:52:34 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: freespirited

You’ll soon know, when the evidence becomes prevalent in classroms, instead of sketches and bluster.


30 posted on 04/03/2009 8:52:36 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Adammon
Isn’t this more a defeat for Creationists?

Maybe not in the short term. What'll happen in the short term is that creationist parents will send their kids to school with things like the "10 questions to ask your biology teacher"--questions that any biology teacher should be able to answer but will have to spend unnecessary time on. But the good teachers will adapt and start preparing lesson plans that will show why "empirical evidence, logical reasoning, and experimental observation and testing" point to evolution, while creationism and ID are notably lacking in such support. So in the long run, I don't think creationists will be happy with the results.

31 posted on 04/03/2009 8:52:58 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: RightwayConservative

I’d prefer to think that as conservatives we enjoy a diversity of opinions while sharing certain common beliefs about the governance of this country, preservation of traditions, and the need for a free and lawful society as framed by our founders.

We must not let our internal disagreements divide us from our common goals.


32 posted on 04/03/2009 8:54:40 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: Adammon; All

As a journalist who has had to report on the issue.....it all depends upon how it is interpreted.

Initially this was a defeat for the ID side. However, as it went on, it was clear they wanted to replace strengths and weaknesses with something more cryptic.

Frankly, who knows what the new standards mean. Both sides aren’t exactly thrilled since the ID side doesn’t have anything really tough in there, but then again the evolution side thinks this is just code for bringing in creationism. As angry as they are about it, it seems that they are more upset than the ID/creationist side.

However, who exactly has lost the most will be determined by how the standard is applied in the classroom......which ultimately will come by how the state test writers interpret it.


33 posted on 04/03/2009 8:54:43 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

If it increases the necessity of public teachers to understand what they’re teaching and actually learn about the theories instead of regurgitating them, I’m all for it! Thanks Creationists!


34 posted on 04/03/2009 8:54:59 AM PDT by Adammon
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To: FormerRep
"I thought the ID side was provided with language that actually made their future challenges more difficult."

That could be true, since the majority of the ID proponents are in reality trying to provide a bandaid for the biggest holes in the TOE. (The 'Theistic Evolution' gang)

35 posted on 04/03/2009 8:56:37 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: freespirited; editor-surveyor
"I have spent a lot more time in biology class than most people around here. I don't know what you are talking about."

That's because "discussing that evidence in class has been forbidden".

He just told you that.

36 posted on 04/03/2009 8:56:55 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: MrB

Ahh, that’s not what you originally said - but I follow you now. Certainly, any hypothesis is open to criticism without presupposing an alternative. The burden of supporting or nullifying the hypothesis lies on the researcher.


37 posted on 04/03/2009 8:56:57 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: GodGunsGuts
In all fields of science, analyze, evaluate, and critique scientific explanations by using empirical evidence, logical reasoning, and experimental observation and testing, including examining all sides of scientific evidence of those explanations so as to encourage critical thinking by the students.

However, despite meeting their goal to get the “strengths and weaknesses” language dropped from the standards, Darwinists have rejected Texas’ effort to “encourage critical thinking by students.”

The National Education Association probably won't be too thrilled by an exhortation to critical thinking, either.

38 posted on 04/03/2009 8:57:17 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Hostility toward parents who would deign to “interfere” with the public school indoctrination process.

Typical “open-minded” evo attitude.

{Are you aware that this is a conservative web site?}

39 posted on 04/03/2009 8:57:44 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: RightwayConservative

Amen


40 posted on 04/03/2009 8:58:15 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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