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We argue quite a bit on these pages about thrd party stuff. Gingrich, I'm sure is voicing what he is actually hearing and sensing.

Those who are diehard Republican and want to preserve the GOP will have to do more than chat and post to FR and other such sites. They are going to have to ivolve themselves in extensive letter-writing, door-knocking, and organizing to bring the Party back to its roots.

I, for one among many, believe that the upper crust of the GOP needs a scare. They need to be forced to feel that they and the whole party can be replaced.

1 posted on 04/03/2009 6:40:18 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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They need to be forced to feel that they and the whole party can be replaced.

No, they and the whole party actually need to be replaced.

2 posted on 04/03/2009 6:42:36 PM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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As a lifelong conservative and a 40+ year Republican, I haven’t given up on the GOP yet.

But its getting close.


5 posted on 04/03/2009 6:45:15 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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I'll sure consider a 3rd party move, if the party High Poobahs don't shape up, SOON!

Continuing the way they are going, and then making promises of change just before an election, WILL NOT work with me.

7 posted on 04/03/2009 6:46:03 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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With all due apologies to Michael Medved, I believe the timing will be ripe for a conservative third party. The RINO party will continue to move towards the left to appease the demoncrats. Problme is that this might end up giving the Demoncraps the WH again. Someone needs to take the reins of the republican party before this country is flushed down the toilet by the Demoncraps.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 6:46:52 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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Gingrich Warns of Conservative 3rd Party in 2012

Yeah, by then the Falcon party will have fifty members and $10,000.

9 posted on 04/03/2009 6:47:57 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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They won’t listen. They don’t care. They don’t have to; we’ve seen to that!

BUT...I’m starting locally, and I advise anyone that listens to do the same. I’m working on local campaigns right now. We’re going to get a new County Executive, get all the smelly hippies OFF of our County Board, and we’re going to get rid of our very own ‘Ruth Bader Ginsburg’ judge (Shirley Abrahamson) if I have anything to say about it come April 7th.

The current ‘Poser in Chief’ that we’ve got? Why, just a few short years ago, he was merely a Community Organizer!

A more effective approach will be slow and steady to win the race for years to come.

Start locally, and move those people up nationally as they earn it. Concentrate on grooming our GOVERNORS for higher office; we have some very, very good ones in place right now.

It completely AMAZES me that the simple things I learned in the Army through the years about Command and Control and Promotions and LEADERSHIP completely escape the GOP we have these days. But, they escape most people I deal with day in and day out. *SHRUG*

Michael Steele? *SPIT* Let’s get real.

This Nation was founded by people no more important or smart or wealthy than we are. Let’s get back to basics.

Well, I can dream, can’t I? ;)


10 posted on 04/03/2009 6:48:23 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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A strong conservative party will depend on the right leader.

Gingrich? Maybe he’s testing the waters with this “warning”.

We are going to have to be careful in choosing our new “Leader of the Conservatives”; if the bad guys put in a charismatic sleeper we are doomed.

But how does one vet a “conservative leader”?

Newt at least has the Contract With America on his resume.


11 posted on 04/03/2009 6:48:30 PM PDT by DBrow
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If the GOP lets the New York Times pick our candidate again in 2012, you're damn straight I'll support a third party candidate.

Of course, there may not be a New York Times in 2012...

13 posted on 04/03/2009 6:49:09 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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Gingrich Warns of Conservative 3rd Party in 2012

I think it would be more accurate to describe it as a second party.
14 posted on 04/03/2009 6:49:19 PM PDT by mysterio
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You have the Democrat Party as a whole

Then the Republican Party and a third party

Yeah that will work...NOT
Unless you want to loose to the Democrats.


16 posted on 04/03/2009 6:49:45 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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The upper crust of the GOP needs to GET OUT of the GOP.

Those crusty old blue blooded, elitist, liberal dinosaurs are irrelevant elephants and are impeding the path that we need to take our nation.

17 posted on 04/03/2009 6:50:11 PM PDT by Semper Mark (No Quarter Given.)
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“warns”? wtf


18 posted on 04/03/2009 6:50:22 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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Well, get ready for “40 years of wandering in the wilderness” of politics then... LOL...


20 posted on 04/03/2009 6:51:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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The RINOs are the ones that need to exit the GOP. In fact, they left the GOP years ago. They just need to make it official.


21 posted on 04/03/2009 6:52:49 PM PDT by vamoose
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The GOP can do nothing. They are powerless thanks to the many stupid Americans that voted the cult leader King Obama. No Senate. No House. No way to do anything except just complain. We are now under the leadership of King Obama and the communists party RATS. The majority of Hollywierd and the MSM gives us little voice. We are between a rock and a hard place. Corruption will keep King Obama and his RAT force in power for many years, and we can blame it on stupid Americans that put this trash in power.
27 posted on 04/03/2009 7:02:06 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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Newt, you created a conservative second party in 1994. What did you do with it?


28 posted on 04/03/2009 7:03:19 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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He’s probably right, I’m done holding my nose. I admit defeat. There just aren’t enough of us strict-constructionists left.


34 posted on 04/03/2009 7:06:15 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I, for one among many, believe that the upper crust of the GOP needs a scare. They need to be forced to feel that they and the whole party can be replaced.

And then what? Leave them where they are to continue running America into the ground? The hell with that. I will never again give the GOP so much as the sweat off my....

35 posted on 04/03/2009 7:06:24 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (In this dance of Life, I have two left feet.)
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The new conservative leader should outline the platform of a third (replacement for the second) party by specifying what it stands for! And that leader should outline what wrath is in store for those in the new ‘conservative’ party who do not follow that platform of ideas.


38 posted on 04/03/2009 7:09:16 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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A 3rd party or a takeover of the GOP by a Conversative Group?

Why not?

The leftist took over the Democratic Party!

It is no longer the party we used to work with! They used to have people that we can work with as sometimes they have a point! But no longer as they seems to be stone deaf to any proposals the GOP makes! And we have too many RINOS in the mix!

We may have to consider the 3rd Party if we can get enough support!


39 posted on 04/03/2009 7:10:51 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (A Dead Commie is a Good Commie!)
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